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   / rototiller or cultivator or what???? #21  
Howards do have a better design of how the blades are positioned, but over the years some company's have copied some of the features.

Howard field tillers have several other better features too, and the biggest one is, the selectatilth gear box. (forward rotation) It has four speeds and that makes a huge difference. Plus for some models, they sell optional gears to get even more speeds...

I do NOT have to be in sand to do an excellent job with a decent ground speed, but I've found here on this site, posters think you have to grind the soil into powder to make a seed bed, then they destroy the soil structure, but they are clueless as to what that even means.

Let me know when you find a KK, Bushhog or woods tiller with a four speed plus, gear box, I'd love to see a pict. of one.

Here's one of my Howards, that now has close to 2,000 acres on it,

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SR
 
   / rototiller or cultivator or what???? #22  
Who makes that tiller for Howard? It sure looks Italian made, specially with the quick change gearbox.

Quick change gearboxes are typical on Italian implements and you can't beat the Italians on ground engaging implements, like tillers, spading machines, etc.
 
   / rototiller or cultivator or what???? #23  
My neighbor once had a Howard tiller that he pulled around really fast. Only way I could explain it would be comparing it to how that when tines stop digging, a gas powered front tine tiller "walks" across ground so fast operator can barly hang on to it. I didn't think it did near as well as my chisel but it's to each his own. Come to think of it,I don't know a single farmer that preps fields with a tiller,Howard or otherwise. Judging by crops those farmers grow every year,I don't see why OP shouldn't follow their example.
 
   / rototiller or cultivator or what???? #24  
6 ft tiller @ 2.75 MPH takes 12 hours to cover 12 acres with NO overlap, no time for turning around, no operator breaks, no fuel stops....
 
   / rototiller or cultivator or what???? #25  
MOST of the time I till at 2.75mph sometimes faster, sometimes slower, (depends on what the customer wants to end up with) and I keep the tiller set as deep as it will go, about 8".

How come I can till that fast? Easy, I have a Howard, not a cheapo garden tiller...

SR

Are you stating your Howard tiller tines(teeth) extend 8 inches below the skid shoes?

I'll bet I have some soil your tiller won't till 8 inches deep after several passes & definitely not a 2.75 mph. FYI God didn't create all soils of the same texture & some of his soil resembles concrete when dry & swamp when wet which I happen to own!!!
 
   / rototiller or cultivator or what???? #26  
Are you stating your Howard tiller tines(teeth) extend 8 inches below the skid shoes?

I'll bet I have some soil your tiller won't till 8 inches deep after several passes & definitely not a 2.75 mph. FYI God didn't create all soils of the same texture & some of his soil resembles concrete when dry & swamp when wet which I happen to own!!!
:laughing: I believe you. Remind's me of seeing an asplalt recycler at work when they first began using them. When my brother saw his first one he said"if I had that thing I'll bet I could till my *#@!*%& black dirt". Don't mix sand with it unless you include lots of organic,it just make's it worse.
 
   / rototiller or cultivator or what???? #27  
Here in Central Ohio, equipment rental such as no-till drills are rented through the Soil & Water Conservation office. A buddy of mine rented one several years ago, to plant cover crop on some of his produce growing ground. His cost several years ago, was $15 an acre for the no-till drill. Here, our County Extension Office works hand in hand with the Conservation office. Maybe we're just fortunate here, because our extension agent is more than happy to help me out, even though I only have 6 acres of hay and pasture ground. It seems to me, if you're in NW Ohio, and near the Great Lakes, that those offices should have access to this type of equipment. It's a good bet that local equipment dealers provide rental of such equipment too.

Have you contacted your County Extension agent..?? there's a bit more to it, than renovating the soil, and sowing crops for hay & pasture. Soil tests need to be done, and see what amendments are needed. That will take 2-3 weeks to get samples sent in, and results back, then your agent will go over it with you. He can also give you optionson the best way to do it, without fields being out of production for a long period of time. You'll not see full production out of either until the second year after planting/sowing.

With my small acreage here, I keep everything in production all of the time. I seed in existing stands using 2 different methods. Frost seeding, and direct seeding using a slit seeder, which I own. Neihter are pretty, but work great. For eliminating compaction, I use a 6' aerator, normally in mid-April, when the soil has some decent moisture, yet pretty solid. I make 2 passes running perpendicular to each other, and makes a big difference. All of these tools are well worth the storage space they take up, to kep fields up to snuff.

On Feb. 14th of this year, I frost seeded a section of the hayfield that had become infested with thistles, that had drifted in from a neighboring property. I'd done a total kill on it last Fall, after mowing it down tight. NOAAH Weather had predicted a 10% chance of snow, and temps to drop to 18コ that night. Perfect weather for frost seeding. As you can see in the picture, we got a pretty good skiff of snow. Temps did get down to 18コ, but the seed was on top of the snow. I gambled that from that point on,surely we'd get cold enough temps.after the snow melted, to get cold enough to honeycomb the ground, to pull the seed in. That didn't happen. And, this is the first year,in 20 some years I've frost seeded, that I had an 80% failure of frost seeding.I eneded up disking it up in the Spring, and re-seeding, but that,and another section I did the same thing too were pretty much out of production this year.

This year, it is time to re-establish the Timothy, and sow more Fescue. I mentioned it to the Extension Agent in a casual conversation on faceBook. He told me I should re-seed in mid-August, so broke out the slit seeder, and went to work in a few days, after getting 3rd cutting hay off, seed ordered, and received. Happy to report it is up 3"- 4" tall, and looking good for next Spring.

I plan on pulling soil samples after the next rain when the ground is softer, so as to get the probe in the ground. If Lime is needed, hopefully I can get it on, before the wet season starts in November. Aerate in April as normal, and apply fertilizer on the hay, after first cutting.

I highly suggest contacting you County Extension Agent. Some of the tax dollars you pay, go to provide this service. You might as well get some benefit from it.
 

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   / rototiller or cultivator or what???? #28  
6 ft tiller @ 2.75 MPH takes 12 hours to cover 12 acres with NO overlap, no time for turning around, no operator breaks, no fuel stops....
I hope you didn't major in math! lol

SR
 
   / rototiller or cultivator or what???? #29  
I would think 1.5 acres an hour would be closer to the actual tillage rate if you figured a little overlap at 2.75 mph. That would probably be a realistic best case scenario with a 6’ tiller. A 2 mph travel rate would probably put the time at 1.2 acres an hour. So 12 hours might not be far out of line for an estimate of the job.
 
   / rototiller or cultivator or what???? #30  
10% overlap gives 1.8 acres an hour, so "about" 6 hours will get me close enough.......anyway, it's a far cry from 12 hours...

Maybe I'll cheat and use my 7' tiller... lol

SR
 

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