Grapple hydraulics install
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k0ua
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Well, that just sucks. I was going to tell you a low dollar way, which I am using with my DK35se to plumb your grapple. However, now that just evaporated.
The manual diverter valve down by the seat is really gonna suck from a time/utility standpoint. You need something with in easy reach of your joystick hand. BUT time/utility is all relative. What might just bug the heck out of someone might be just fine and the dandy to you. What you really want is the electric over hydraulic so called 3rd function valve plumbed in after the loader and before the 3 point with the two buttons on the joystick. Open and close.
I use the rear hydraulics to power my grapple and have less than $150 total for hoses and fittings installed. Did the work myself, and extending my rear remote lever so I could access it with my fingers while my right hand is still on the loader joystick. You can read about my journey below. Good luck with yours.
https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums...connects-loader-torque.html?highlight=grapple
https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums...on-control-valve-lever.html?highlight=grapple
old and tired
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I don't know your tractor, does it have Power Beyond? IF it does, just add a single spool after the FEL, mount it next to it. Like this one: 1 Spool 8 GPM Prince MB11B5C1 DA Valve
Just a thought but what about just replacing the 2 spool FEL control with 3 spools?
Something like this: HYDRAULIC LOADER VALVE 3 SPOOL W/JOYSTICK 10 GPM W/FLOAT SPOOL | eBay
You can use the old 2 spool for Top-N-Tilt control if you add that later (or just sell it).
Just a thought but what about just replacing the 2 spool FEL control with 3 spools?
Something like this: HYDRAULIC LOADER VALVE 3 SPOOL W/JOYSTICK 10 GPM W/FLOAT SPOOL | eBay
You can use the old 2 spool for Top-N-Tilt control if you add that later (or just sell it).
senecak19
Silver Member
I知 sure one of those video links will answer all your questions. I literally just finished my third function installation on my Kubota L3200 and I had ALL the same questions you had. I purchased the Landpride kit so everything I needed was in the box. Pretty straight forward install. About the only thing I bought extra was Loctote 545 for my hydraulic connections. I don稚 want them leaking anytime soon. As for hydraulic fluid loss, if you relieve your hydraulic system you won稚 virtually any. I didn稚 lose enough to even coat the bottom of a 5 gallon pail. Of course, my new hoses took some fluid and I keep checking my glass window and still aren稚 even close to having to add any back in. Go at it with confidence. I went a little bit further with the electrical and added a secondary fuse box to accommodate wiring for my 3rd function as well as LED lights.
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Ideal for use on front end loaders with a grapple.
Hydraulic control valve three spool 1st spool is a float spool the other 2 are 4 way 3 position spring center spools. With joystick.
Open center. With float spool, perfect for loaders.
This compact valve will work in many applications.
Work ports are SAE #8, Inlet and outlet are SAE #10 ports.
Anti-drop load checks on each spool.
Pressure relief is adjustable from 435 PSI to 3,600 PSI and preset at 2,700 PSI.
Max pressure 3,625 PSI.
Max flow 10 GPM.
Power Beyond Plug is Item 273941821347
Closed Center Plug is Item 273008910731
Thank you all for your replies. Sorry for the belated response but I unfortunately had to replace my computer, and have only now gotten the new one up and running, What a pain. Anyway, I very much appreciate your responses and will spend some time studying them ASAP and figuring out the best route to get this project done.
Mike
Mike
Big Chief
Silver Member
Use the power beyond port and add a second valve which allows infinite control and fine adjustments of the grapple.
I really like the previous posted integrated 2nd valve.
I've got to figurer out if there is a power beyond port. I looked for it carefully but am unsure even after a careful inspection. I'll have to reread the manual but didn't come across a reference about it on first look.
I'd call the dealer and ask except he went out of business. Nothing is ever easy it seems. Your idea is probably the way to go though if there is the port.
Mike
I'd call the dealer and ask except he went out of business. Nothing is ever easy it seems. Your idea is probably the way to go though if there is the port.
Mike
Big Chief
Silver Member
Take a picture of your loader valve
I did end up biting the bullet and getting the pricier W.R. Long 3rd function kit Eric suggested from Everything Attachments. It has all the parts needed, is made to fit the Kioti CK35 and its loader exactly, and should be more versatile than only a diverter valve. And most importantly the kit containing all the parts needed should lessen the chances of screwing up my first attempt at hydraulics work, not an insignificant factor, while limiting trips to the store to get needed parts and risk catching Covid-19. Thanks all for your input and Eric for his recommendation of the W.R. kit. Can't wait to get the grapple in place and working, although a snow plow might be more useful at present. Maybe next year for that.
Mike