Quitting a habit

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   / Quitting a habit #181  
Hope won't get you to a gas station on an empty tank. Think ahead or bring up the rear. Life is longer than the rest of today. In a way quitting a habit is an investment in your future and may take some time to build it up to you goal. Patience and dedication or it won't add up.
 
   / Quitting a habit #182  
Hope won't get you to a gas station on an empty tank. Think ahead or bring up the rear. Life is longer than the rest of today. In a way quitting a habit is an investment in your future and may take some time to build it up to you goal. Patience and dedication or it won't add up.
I don't think we are disagreeing here. You have to want to quit not just verbalize the desire. My post with the reference to AA was that there are a lot of members who were not successful at quitting the first time, some regressed after years of sobriety. They rebooted and started again. I believe there's hope involved.
 
   / Quitting a habit #183  
I don't think we are disagreeing here. You have to want to quit not just verbalize the desire. My post with the reference to AA was that there are a lot of members who were not successful at quitting the first time, some regressed after years of sobriety. They rebooted and started again. I believe there's hope involved.
Hope and desire are important, but the fact remains, you have to make the decision...yes or no..."maybe" means failure. I think I "hoped" that an angel would come down and remove the desire, or some such but it never happened.
 
   / Quitting a habit #184  
My dad died of lung cancer after 60 years of Camel straights. I was a smoker too, until I came down with viral pneumonia. It gave me so much lung damage I couldn't walk a quarter of a mile. I had a pack and a half a day habit, and had quit a couple times before. I learned that the drug withdrawal was over fairly quickly, but the habit was a monkey on my back forever.

One day I figured out how many times I had practiced that habit. 30 cigs a day, times maybe 10 hits per cig, times 365 days a year, times 25 years. I had practiced that habit over 2.7 million times. No wonder it was a problem. So I switched to smoking a pipe.

Pipe smoking was wonderful. I trained myself not to inhale, but it is a tough way to get nicotine in our modern society. It takes about an hour to finish a pipe, no quick dash out the door for a nicotine fix. I loved it. I had about an hour commute. I could light a pipe when I left work, fight rush hour, and by the time I got home I would be decompressed and relaxed.

Smoking a pipe let me (mostly) break the cigarette habit. After a year of that, I went cold turkey. That was 30 years ago this August. After about 5 years I gradually quit wanting a smoke. I don't think of it any more. My lungs have pretty much recovered.

There's a sad coda to this. Pipe smoking requires several pipes. You have to rotate them, or they go sour. You have to clean and air them at least a day, two or three days is better. I had a friend who was a chain smoker, so I gave my pipes to him after I quit. He never got the hang of getting nicotine through his mouth membranes, and kept right on inhaling. It killed him. He died of lung cancer about 20 years ago.
 
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   / Quitting a habit #185  
When I was a kid, I watched a movie of an experiment where they tested people's ability to repeatedly place a small metal rod into a small hole, without touching the edges. It is essentially testing the jitters in the hand.

Smokers did the test before and after smoking a cigarette, and their performance was worse afterwards. Nicotine is a stimulant, and their performance seemed to contradict the perception that smoking is relaxing.

The conclusion was that smokers are really feeling the cessation of early nicotine withdrawal when they smoke, and that feels like relaxation.

I was never a smoker, so I can't verify.
 
   / Quitting a habit #186  
When I was a kid, I watched a movie of an experiment where they tested people's ability to repeatedly place a small metal rod into a small hole, without touching the edges. It is essentially testing the jitters in the hand.

Smokers did the test before and after smoking a cigarette, and their performance was worse afterwards. Nicotine is a stimulant, and their performance seemed to contradict the perception that smoking is relaxing.

The conclusion was that smokers are really feeling the cessation of early nicotine withdrawal when they smoke, and that feels like relaxation.

I was never a smoker, so I can't verify.
I never was either yet the way my hands shake I would be there all day.
 
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Hope won't get you to a gas station on an empty tank. Think ahead or bring up the rear. Life is longer than the rest of today. In a way quitting a habit is an investment in your future and may take some time to build it up to you goal. Patience and dedication or it won't add up.
I think what I meant is, as humans, we have to have hope that there is something better for us than our current predicament. Otherwise, why bother?
 
   / Quitting a habit #188  
Ayup. Hope, determination, commitment, .. we have to use all the tools we can draw on. Hope may be the most natural.
 
   / Quitting a habit #189  
bragging on the internet about being a big tough guy is a habit worth quitting.
Anyone who smoked or dipped long term and ”quit 20 years ago”, isn’t necessarily out of the woods. Guy I worked for quit smoking in 1990 and got lung cancer in 2014.
A buddy of mine owns a roofing busines- roofs everything I build. Told me his dad chewed tobacco for decades, finally quit and about 10 years later had part of his jaw removed-full of cancer. He was lucky to live.
 
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