Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[5030]

Take away 40% of the corn farmers' income and see how that affects them.

That entirely is dependent on what they are growing. Very few around here grow e-corn.... and I will tell you that making money on e-corn is very slim. The ethanol producers really penciled it out. You have to grow a specific variety (dictated by them) and it's all on a contract price set ahead of time so when inputs rise and fuel cost rises (as it is presently), the slim profit margin grows even slimmer.

Why row croppers around here don't plant it.

Typically, seed corn is about 300 bucks per 52 pound sack. I know well, my good friend down the road is one of the largest seed corn producers in the State of Michigan and I get most all of his no germ uncoated seed corn to heat my house with in the winter. Seed corn must 'germ' at 95% or better to be marketable and it's tested regularly. I have the cheapest heat in the winter...free corn.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

yeah . . . . what is the look ahead for US Corn / Farming Industry in that regard when most US Ground Transportation has gone electric?

Corn Crop collapse? Export for Fuel? Aircraft running on Ethanol?

Perhaps we are facing many changes over the next 30 years as fossil fuel usage is phased out or j. By then most baby boomers will be phased out as well so these issues will be more of a concern for the yet to be born than most posting today.

 

[5030]

yeah . . . . what is the look ahead for US Corn / Farming Industry in that regard when most US Ground Transportation has gone electric?

Where did you get that at? Not true. Maybe in Kalifornia but not anywhere else and anyone that foists that 'fact' is FOS.

 

[5030]

Our generators won't run because they are all gunked up with ethanol.

Not an issue on this farm. The main backup genny is diesel fired and the house genny is propane.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Where did you get that at? Not true. Maybe in Kalifornia but not anywhere else and anyone that foists that 'fact' is FOS.

Reality check time? How many corporations are going to run diesel trucks at twice the expense of electric?

 

[5030]

Reality check time? How many corporations are going to run diesel trucks at twice the expense of electric?

Reality is, maybe when the engines wear out or the inherent maintenance costs exceed the cost of changing.

I know UPS here tried 'electric' delivery vans for a year and went back to diesels. They even tried CNG and it didn't work out.

The only reason why motor fuel is climbing in price is the current administration, one that I don't align with at all.

You can bank on alternative fuels also climbing in price as well. Like I said before, the gummit will extract it's 'pound of flesh' no matter what the motive power is.

If you think for a minute that electric utilities won't pass on the cost of alternate power generation to you as a consumer, you live in a glass house.

Called being a Capitalist.

 

[grsthegreat]

How many corporations will let ekectric trucks run a few hundred miles a day and stay in business

 

[5030]

How many corporations will let ekectric trucks run a few hundred miles a day and stay in business

Not many if any. I could just see some dead electric delivery truck in the side of the road being 'recharged' by a service truck with a gas powered genny in the back...

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Electric truck trains running in electrified cross country tunnels will come back to the surface roads fully charged for another 500 miles of range.

 

[Phil Timmons]

Where did you get that at? Not true. Maybe in Kalifornia but not anywhere else and anyone that foists that 'fact' is FOS.

Do you mean where for "US Ground Transportation going (at least mostly) Electric?"

It is already happening. Even cheap Gasoline or Diesel cannot compete. Retail Electricity is less than 1/4 the price of "Cheap" Gasoline or Diesel.

Renewable Electricity (Silicon Solar PV in particular) has become so cheap, that businesses or even normal folks can "fuel" or charge at their own place for "Free."

Going out further, Electric Roadways will be even less than "Battery" system, and prices just collapse further.

This is NOT some "Future Tech" stuff -- it is happening now. My question is about the effects on the Ethanol Corn Industry.