Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

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That would have been really promising 30 years ago. I don't see how the infrastructure can be built out in time to do this generation any good. The chrome domes project we only have about a decade to stabilize atmospheric CO2 if we want to hold global temperature rise below 2.5 degrees C. We're already at 1.8.

I don't see it happening. EVs would be a great step, if we had a carbon neutral way of charging them. We don't. We have made incremental progress by converting coal power generation to natural gas, but every molecule of methane still has one carbon.

They have done some nice work on high temperature electrolysis. If solar panel prices keep dropping 25% a year, hydrogen may be a practical storage medium; electrolyze while the sun shines, feed hydrogen through turbines when it doesn't. I don't see nuclear or geothermal bailing us out any time soon. Wind is a nice paycheck for farmers where it's windy, but it's unreliable in the absence of long distance electrical transmission lines, which nobody is building.

It's hard to know where to place our bets. The critical property of energy is that it has to be cheap to maintain our standard of living in an industrial society. If energy expenses rise rapidly, it's going to make a mess out of the economy.
Energy expenses over time should go the same way as our long distance telephone expenses.

Below Gregg covers the 3 cycles that impact global temperature based on ice core data samples. Pay attention what occurs historical after every period of high CO2 levels. :) Gregg's scientific background may be geology. Global warming and cooling predates mankind. Look at the 3 primary factors that determine our relationship to the sun. The first few minutes are promoting future subjects.

 
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Energy expenses over time should go the same way as our long distance telephone expenses.

Below Gregg covers the 3 cycles that impact global temperature based on ice core data samples. Pay attention what occurs historical after every period of high CO2 levels. :) Gregg's scientific background may be geology. Global warming and cooling predates mankind. Look at the 3 primary factors that determine our relationship to the sun. The first few minutes are promoting future subjects.


I haven't watched the video yet but my immediate impression is that it looks like the "new story" that's emerging for our future is T-rex's and tbh at this point I'm not sure that's such a bad thing
 
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I haven't watched the video yet but my immediate impression is that it looks like the "new story" that's emerging for our future is T-rex's and tbh at this point I'm not sure that's such a bad thing.
Turn off your electricity/water/anything motorized and forage for food for a week, then come back and tell me you think you'll be better off living in a destroyed world.
 
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I haven't watched the video yet but my immediate impression is that it looks like the "new story" that's emerging for our future is T-rex's and tbh at this point I'm not sure that's such a bad thing
Wrong guess but I do like your humor. :)

Main point is the world will keep spinning and the sun will keep coming up. Pay attention to the ice core sample. We may someday retreat to the caves again and produce a new caveman era. :)
 
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LoL...as is typical (especially in this thread) you miss the point again...to see the humor/irony the EV has to be sitting at home with a dead battery...the trip to go buy gas for a generator would have to be in another vehicle...whether it's elec. or gas is moot...

I can explain things for you but I can understand them for you...
Meh.

Couldn't buy gas here after the tornadoes of 2011. No electricity. Took 3 days before a big enough generator was brought in for Walmart’s gas pumps, electrician hired to splice it in, and something done for credit card processing. My power was out 7 days.

AT&T brought in hundreds of trailer generators to power cell towers and even the wired telephone lines. Cell towers had less than 24 hours of something, probably battery, as when cell service returned there were generator trailers parked at the base of towers.

Having owned and driven an EV as my daily driver for 7.5 years, and 15 days of over 500 miles each, I’ve never known anyone to “run out of gas” in an EV.

Only know of one who connected a generator and that was only for kicks to see if it could be done. Learned Tesla doesn’t like how ground and neutral are handled by a Honda EU2000i. EU2000i floats neutral. Tesla’s safeties test for that and do not like. So the solution is to tie neutral and ground together with a plug in the generator’s second outlet. Neutral is still floating but the car is fooled into being happy.

Got the expected 3 miles of range after an hour at 120v @12A. The EU2000i is supposed to run 4 hours on 1 gallon at full output. So, 12 MPG? Or a mere 1440W from the grid even under reduced power orders? No EV owner would use a generator but for exactly the same situation you would use a generator to power the refrigerator. Is use of a generator to power the electric refrigerator worthy of ridicule?

When we charge the battery to over 200 miles of range each night no 3-5 hour “reduced use” order affects anything.
 
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Energy expenses over time should go the same way as our long distance telephone expenses.

Below Gregg covers the 3 cycles that impact global temperature based on ice core data samples. Pay attention what occurs historical after every period of high CO2 levels. :) Gregg's scientific background may be geology. Global warming and cooling predates mankind. Look at the 3 primary factors that determine our relationship to the sun. The first few minutes are promoting future subjects.

Gregg's scientific background appears to be astrology. By the time he got to linking sun spots to "big" human activity, he lost me completely. At the beginning he tries to use data with a granularity of 1000 years to explain the last 50 years. There's no doubt the earth's climate has shifted widely in the last 25,000 years, but the change should take centuries, not decades.
 
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Energy expenses over time should go the same way as our long distance telephone expenses.

Below Gregg covers the 3 cycles that impact global temperature based on ice core data samples. Pay attention what occurs historical after every period of high CO2 levels. :) Gregg's scientific background may be geology. Global warming and cooling predates mankind. Look at the 3 primary factors that determine our relationship to the sun. The first few minutes are promoting future subjects.

Hey!!! I watch his video's as well... He does make an excellent point.
 
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