Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[Gale Hawkins]

There’s a place I frequently walk. It’s a huge botanical garden. There’s 3 free complementary charging stations for members. I walk 1+ hour. If I can talk my wife into an EV, we could charge while we walk.
Problem is, theyre going to need 50 of them by next year.

At home the Leaf will add about 24 miles of range in 1 hour. It has the 6.6 amp rated charger which draws about 26 when charging and if I had a 16 amp cable it would charge about 12 miles an hour of course the 120 volt charge cord give me 6 mi of range per hour.

 

[MossRoad]

From another post it seems to be related to tailpipe emission test results only. From what I have been reading today it seems like the carbon credits helps fossil fuel vehicle manufacturers keep their doors open and not get shut down by the government because of emissions standards. Honda and FCA were the two buying carbon credits from Tesla from a Google search. GM is good thanks to the Volt/Bolt and and Ford learned the carbon credit rules early on it seems. For autos the need to buy carbon credits is quickly becoming a thing of the past because manufacturers are moving to vehicles that meet the federal standard or state standards or merging with other auto makers.

GM is buying credits from Tesla as of 2019.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

GM is buying credits from Tesla as of 2019.

Well I have everything to learn on this subject. Sounds like GM is started to wake up and see the light. Sounds like they're taking a play out of Tesla's hand book and getting into the EV business in a serious way which means making their own EV batteries.

GM Strikes Deal For One of US' First Lithium Mines - Interesting Engineering

Will one of the planet's most polluted lakes become California's Lithium Valley?

interestingengineering.com

 

[Hay Dude]

That place is a nightmare.
Maybe the workers can live in Slab City in harmony with all the squatter hippies living on SSI checks.
That place is such a mess, a lithium mine is probably it’s only salvation….

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Facing Emission Fines, Ford Becomes Ravenous for Carbon Credits​

Facing Emission Fines, Ford Becomes Ravenous for Carbon Credits

Ford is joining the lengthening list of automakers that cannot adhere to EU emission quotas and is pursuing the popular option of just buying carbon credits

www.thetruthaboutcars.com

Other Automakers Paid Tesla a Record $428 Million Last Quarter​

Other Automakers Paid Tesla a Record $428 Million Last Quarter

Automakers buy regulatory credits, and a lot of them, from Tesla in order to comply with emissions regulations around the world.

www.caranddriver.com

Thanks for these two articles. The reader's comments on the first article was extremely helpful.

I was thinking the carbon credit thing was about to go away but it sounds like it's just getting it high gear and I did not even know about the need for them in the EC.

What boggles my mind is why the manufacturers did not do like Tesla was doing instead of paying Tesla to get them out of the crack temporarily?

Now I understand why Tesla is working around the clock to be able to get 2 million new EVS on the market in 2022 to help the old OEMs players so they don't totally miss the EV evolution. It seems like Tesla does have a soft spot for Volkswagen.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

Carbon credits, Another political shell game.

 

[airbiscuit]

the Salton Sea, which is one of the most polluted places on the planet due to decades of agricultural runoff.

 

[PuffyC]

Cap and Trade - History of Carbon Credits and Carbon Trading

No wonder I did not understand this subject. 50 years this subject was not even on my radar anymore than our farting cows.

It's not just farting cows, it's also those darn feral hogs:

The climate impact of wild pigs greater than a million cars, study finds

By uprooting carbon trapped in soil, wild pigs are releasing around 4.9 million metric tonnes of carbon dioxide annually across the globe, the equivalent of 1.1 million cars, according to new research.

www.sciencedaily.com

 

[PuffyC]

Rivian just announced a delay in production due to a shortage of materials. Deliveries were supposed to start end of this month. Minimum, two month delay.

Considering Ford can't even produce a garden variety gas powered F150 this is not surprising.

 

[/pine]

WSJ News Exclusive | Startup Claims Breakthrough in Long-Duration Batteries

Form Energy says it has built a low-cost iron-air battery that can discharge electricity for days, which could have big ramifications for storing electricity on the power grid.

www.wsj.com