Finding a buried water line

   / Finding a buried water line #11  
I had a bit of a laugh to myself when I had the "call before you dig" guy out to locate a phone line before we trenched for a water pipe. After about 10 minutes struggling with the locator (apparently a weak signal from old phone lines) he took one of the marking flags bent at a right angle and found the line in about 30 seconds. Then went over the path he just walked with the locator and sure enough there it was....
Amazing a bent flag worked better than that few thousand dollar unit....
Yeah ahahahaha
i have shamed many an overpaid no nothing from the utility company finding lines.
 
   / Finding a buried water line #12  
I’ve got a method, I can walk for three days into Denali National park away from the nearest road with a trenching shovel. As soon as that shovel touches dirt it will break a water pipe.

I offer my services to anyone, guarantee my work as well!
That would be my luck too!! 🥸🤪
 
   / Finding a buried water line #13  
I have a a greenlee 501 tracker. Works great on electric lines. Never tried a water line, but as long as you could push a fish tape in it I don’t know why it would not work. Ive found wires 5 feet down. Very accurate.

mine is similar, but way older looking, than this
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   / Finding a buried water line #14  
When I read the first post I just knew this was going to end up about dowsing, not again.:(
 
   / Finding a buried water line #16  
I can find wires or pipes with a pair of dowsing rods.
All it takes is 2 pieces of coat hanger wire.
What I do but I use uncoated brazing rod and contrary to popular belief, it works and works every time. Works for pipes and buried electrical cable too. Metal coat hangers are getting to be pretty rare today...lol
 
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OP here. My dowsing story: I once owned a house that was built in 1928. The main sewer pipe went into the middle of the basement floor and vanished, and connected to a city sewer about 60' away. I needed to locate where the sewer went, so I called a plumbing company that specialized in utility hookups. The guy who came out said, "I have a $3,000 pipe locater, but I find my dowsing rods work better." So he gets out his dowsing rods and walks around the front yard, and he comes back and says he has bad news, the dowsing rods are showing that the pipe runs under an 8' retaining wall, then under the concrete front steps of the house and the porch. Digging it up is going to do tens of thousands of dollars of damage to the house.

So he decides to double-check his work, he gets a guy with a camera to go down the pipe and get its exact location. The camera shows that the pipe runs from the street straight up the middle of the driveway to the house. The driveway is brick pavers that we take up and put back by hand. It's nowhere near where the dowsing rods said it was. But exactly where the electronic pipe finder said it was.
 
   / Finding a buried water line #18  
OP here. My dowsing story: I once owned a house that was built in 1928. The main sewer pipe went into the middle of the basement floor and vanished, and connected to a city sewer about 60' away. I needed to locate where the sewer went, so I called a plumbing company that specialized in utility hookups. The guy who came out said, "I have a $3,000 pipe locater, but I find my dowsing rods work better." So he gets out his dowsing rods and walks around the front yard, and he comes back and says he has bad news, the dowsing rods are showing that the pipe runs under an 8' retaining wall, then under the concrete front steps of the house and the porch. Digging it up is going to do tens of thousands of dollars of damage to the house.

So he decides to double-check his work, he gets a guy with a camera to go down the pipe and get its exact location. The camera shows that the pipe runs from the street straight up the middle of the driveway to the house. The driveway is brick pavers that we take up and put back by hand. It's nowhere near where the dowsing rods said it was. But exactly where the electronic pipe finder said it was.
Maybe it was a different pipe, or an original pipe that was replaced.
The dowsing rods work perfectly.
Just gotta know how to use em
 
   / Finding a buried water line #19  
First off, dowsing does not work. It’s like a lot of things, people want to believe so in their mind it works. At one time there was a million dollar prize if someone could prove it, the prize went unclaimed.

Second, I absolutely believe people can locate utilities without any modern equipment. I’m a retired land surveyor and did a lot of topographic surveying. I can locate utilities but I use my senses. I could bend rods and say that works also I guess. For example, a sewer clean out near a house and subtle low spots in a yard show where the sewer service is.

I personally have seen dowsing fail on numerous occasions. There is always a reason given, like it must have been an underground stream, the gas line threw me off etc.

Last, I am not making fun of people that believe it works, I’ve seen people I respect as intelligent well educated individuals that believe it works.
 
   / Finding a buried water line #20  
I've seen it work on active underground electric lines. I suspect it is sort of like an electric motor, with the "dowsing" wires turning as they cut through the electrical field made by the underground wires.

Bruce
 

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