Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[Gale Hawkins]

I will say it again, electric cars don't make sense right now. Ditch the concept all together. Turn the focus to residential and commercial solar capture with battery storage. Scale to the load as needed. Alleviate the stress to the grid, then you don't have to build it out in the future.

It makes no sense to force a square peg into a round hole. Trying to electrify transportation requires downtime to charge at specific locations. Industry is not going to slow down for charging when there are super fast and convenient alternatives available and proven. It defies all economic laws, it's not sustainable in the long run.

Which brings us to the elephant in the room...batteries. They're not there yet. They need to store about 10x more energy before it makes economic sense in a car. I'm sure we'll get there, and then accommodate the tech.

The EV revolution left without you.

 

[Hay Dude]

Is it really going to end all days if we are behind some other countries on electric cars? I’m sure we can still conduct commerce with ICEVs until we catch up, if we even want to.

Remember the fear and panic created when Russia was going to beat us into space? Then what happened? All the fear and panic stopped when we stuck a landing on a place called the Moon.
For like 50 years, nobody else ever did make it there, did they?
So communist China with their 1 child per family and 1.3 billion people crammed into their country has EVs before us. They still have a lot of problems we don’t have, but we feel “left behind” because they have more EVs per capita than us?

I‘d rather live here and ride a horse or drive a Cummins than China with an EV. You can throw a lot more countries into that group as well. Not ALL advancements in technology are “advancements”. Some are needless and just a race to the bottom while creating needless expenditures when in reality, America’s bank account is empty.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Plug In or Gas Up? Why Driving on Electricity is Better than Gasoline

Electricity power plant emissions data and the latest assessments of fuel emissions and vehicle efficiency show 97 percent of people in the US live where driving an EV would produce fewer emissions than a 50 mpg gasoline car.

blog.ucsusa.org

 

[Gale Hawkins]

 

[Hay Dude]

Yuck!

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Here is the EV power source some of you have been clamoring for.

 

[Agvg]

This will be very common, most large cities in the world don't have space for privat ownership of cars, cars that take up space and almost never being used.

 

[Egon]

It surely can store energy...I will give you an example.

I was the economist on the board for our electric company when Amazon and Microsoft wanted to open a series of server farms here. These require so much energy to operate and chose Wyoming for it's cheap power (coal) and access to fiber optic distribution lines. My committee on the board was tasked with figuring out the load factoring and if there was enough capacity to operate these places in both peak and off peak times. Well there was not enough capacity. The bottle neck was not at the source of generation, but the capacity in the high tension cable distribution network. In order to supply the energy those companies needed, we had to add another high tension wire line to add storage capacity for times of high demand.

So...

Transferring energy. Shut down the generating station and the line will be dead. Lines are often isolated to work on them. They do not retain a storage of electricity.

 

[Egon]

Building roads would become cost prohibited for cities. Then what happens when a pot hole shuts down 5 o'clock rush hour with everyone stranded with dead batteries?

If building a grid above ground is challenging, imagine putting it in a road.

There are many transportation methods/systems using externally generated electricity. No batteries Required.

 

[Agvg]

This I suppose have been posted before