Are we in the USA really this far behind?

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   / Are we in the USA really this far behind? #71  
That is exactly where these tractors are used.

These tractors are specialized tractors meant to be used in orchard, vineyards, greenhouses and hilly ground. They have to be very low to clear branches and with a really low center of gravity for hills and such.

While there are loaders for these tractors, the arms have to be very long to clear the nose and makes for a cumbersome loader and very little capacity. Plus, a loader it's an easy and fast way to destroy the pivot point and even break castings.

I have an Antonio Carraro 9800 with a Bonatti loader mounted on the front. They are also mountable on the rear. One needs to be extra careful not to tip forward, but with that in mind I have had no problems.
 
   / Are we in the USA really this far behind? #72  
Antonio Carraro tractors at work in the good ol'USA.

 
   / Are we in the USA really this far behind? #73  
Few have ever been here and cannot consieve of the great distances and huge farms in this country.
Was gonna mention this earlier and got side tracked. Europeans have been using tractors with road gear speeds of 30 mph or so for decades. Reason being their tractors get used on the roads a LOT. Way more than here. Their farms might be smaller and their fields most certainly smaller. But their tractors are used in a way we are not accustomed to here.

First time I saw a high speed tractor was in Germany. I think it was a Fendt. But because I met it so quickly I might be wrong. It was hauling butt pulling a large 4 wheel wagon. Easily 30 mph. Looked gigantic coming at me. :)
 
   / Are we in the USA really this far behind? #74  
I don't it means we are behind or it is just not needed here. I don't see a very market for it here. But there is no question that the last 20 years have put us behind in manufacturing.
 
   / Are we in the USA really this far behind? #75  
Was gonna mention this earlier and got side tracked. Europeans have been using tractors with road gear speeds of 30 mph or so for decades. Reason being their tractors get used on the roads a LOT. Way more than here. Their farms might be smaller and their fields most certainly smaller. But their tractors are used in a way we are not accustomed to here.

First time I saw a high speed tractor was in Germany. I think it was a Fendt. But because I met it so quickly I might be wrong. It was hauling butt pulling a large 4 wheel wagon. Easily 30 mph. Looked gigantic coming at me. :)
Man are you living in the past. Lol
I have been running 30+Mph tractors for 10-12 years.
Other farmers around here even longer-back to the early 2000’s
 
   / Are we in the USA really this far behind? #76  
Man are you living in the past. Lol
I have been running 30+Mph tractors for 10-12 years.
Other farmers around here even longer-back to the early 2000’s
Well Sir,,,, Europeans have been using them for 40 years. The incident I quoted happened in 1987 or 1988, can't remember for sure....
 
   / Are we in the USA really this far behind? #77  
In the US you have a very large market for small hobby tractors, and you buy new tractors, here there is a hobby market but it's in the 50 to 110hp area and of course few buy new. Foton/Lovol is the only brand that has any sales in the 50hp market, and Lovol outsells Kubota in the overall market. Those articulated Italian tractors is for sale here but it's specialist machines, very expensive and small.

And farming in a small scale is really just a expensive hobby here, witch is a pity.
 
   / Are we in the USA really this far behind? #78  
And farming in a small scale is really just a expensive hobby here, witch is a pity.
Unless you are organic or some other specialty market, the same can be said here in the US.
 
   / Are we in the USA really this far behind? #79  
Unless you are organic or some other specialty market, the same can be said here in the US.
Have a small farm, I just sell the gras, exchanging bills and hopes to earn a few hundred dollars. Have to farm it my self so this bill exchange is to obey the law, the alternative is to rent out the land for minimum 10 years in a locked deal, a arrangement I do not like.
 
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I have a Italian vineyard but mine does not articulate. Mine has 4 wheel steering, 4 wheel drive and you drive forward or backward just rotate the seat. Step on a pedal and lock both front and back axel and it petty hard to stop it. A very handy tractor.
Does this "Italian vineyard" have a make or model?
 
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