City kids do not leave keys in vehicles. . . It’s different out here...

[deezler]

Still don't know why we couldn't have this. 2020 Manual trans F350.

https://cedarsmotors.com/archives/car/2020-ford-f350-sd-xl-4x2-regular-cab-145-wb-drw-6-2l-petrol

Because it's crap, and no one would buy it! Why on earth would you want to row those clunky, cumbersome gears when an auto trans shifts faster, gets you better mpg, and is more reliable, for the same price (or less) ?

 

[ultrarunner]

User servicable is one reason which perhaps translates into longevity?

My grading and excavation guy always had stick trucks and does a lot of his work in Santa Cruz Mountains…

His last truck purchase is automatic and not a happy camper with the transmission due to time out of service…

Maybe a one off but that is all it takes…

Don’t remember the series but it is a Ford.

Also on the brakes a lot more in the mountains with the auto…

 

[Jstpssng]

Because it's crap, and no one would buy it! Why on earth would you want to row those clunky, cumbersome gears when an auto trans shifts faster, gets you better mpg, and is more reliable, for the same price (or less) ?

Gears last longer, especially when you're working it. A transmission failure in the middle of January can put somebody out of business here... especially this year when GM trannies were hard to come by.

 

[kthompson]

I grew up about 7 miles from where I now live. That was the 50 and 60's. Keys stayed in the ignition and house was not locked. Hey, no key lock on our house till my Dad passed in Jan 1970. Today my keys are in my pocket or the house, doors locked and often even cab tractor is, you see too many here are not local rural people....too many are now from snow country with high and I mean 12 times or more our property taxes and also drugs have made their camp in the tourist city 20 miles from me...
When we moved to current home 22 years ago this month, I watch the tractors go by. Now the seldom tractor is really looked at but the license plates from the northeast are too common place. A true local here is like an honest politician, hard to find.

 

[Farmer495]

Because it's crap, and no one would buy it! Why on earth would you want to row those clunky, cumbersome gears when an auto trans shifts faster, gets you better mpg, and is more reliable, for the same price (or less) ?

Must have been someone buying those manual F350s to sell them 9 years after you couldn't buy one in US or Canada.

I agree new automatics can shift faster than manual, My ZF6 was a slow shifter towing from a dead stop compared to my current automatic.

MPG is a factor of gearing and driver input. If you are driving a manual vehicle with say an 0.83:1 OD and the automatic version has a 0.72:1 OD, the auto is going to get better MPG with same engine and final drive. If you run a stick to redline every gear and don't drive in highest possible gear, the auto will get better mileage every time.

I have a 6-speed manual car. It gets 38 US MPG combined average town and highway. Realtime readout says 43 US MPG highway. CVT was the other option in that car and claimed better MPG. Manual was way cheaper and no rubber band to burn up. I don't think I'd save the price difference and I'm not worried about maintenance/repair.

Last Cummins Ram 6-speeds (2018 MY) were all but special order, were detuned from the automatic version, sold as "fuel economy version" They were cheaper than the automatic but you gave up a lot of power for it.

 

[gsganzer]

I was on a job in the Sacramento area and I stopped at a convenience store. As soon as I got out of the car and walked towards the store, I saw a kid walk up to the car and lift the door handles to see if it was unlocked. California seems to be the worst for that kind of petty theft stuff.

 

[gstrom99]

I was on a job in the Sacramento area and I stopped at a convenience store. As soon as I got out of the car and walked towards the store, I saw a kid walk up to the car and lift the door handles to see if it was unlocked. California seems to be the worst for that kind of petty theft stuff.

I haven't locked my cars/trucks since I moved outta Illinois. House only gets locked, if I will be away for more than the 10 minute trip to town. Keys do get taken out of the zero turn, tractors and atv, pretty much out of habit, even though they are in the pole barn.

 

[Jstpssng]

I was on a job in the Sacramento area and I stopped at a convenience store. As soon as I got out of the car and walked towards the store, I saw a kid walk up to the car and lift the door handles to see if it was unlocked. California seems to be the worst for that kind of petty theft stuff.

About two months after buying my Colorado I was out for a ride and stopped into a grocery store. My dog was with me so I left the window down but locked the door, as I am apt to do. I came out with an armload of groceries so I reached through the open window to open the door... again, SOP. OH, , the horn started beeping... and I've got an arm full of groceries on the side where my keys are. That day two things happened... I discovered that my truck had an alarm, and I became that guy people hate for setting off their car alarm.

 

[KilroyJC]

About two months after buying my Colorado I was out for a ride and stopped into a grocery store. My dog was with me so I left the window down but locked the door, as I am apt to do. I came out with an armload of groceries so I reached through the open window to open the door... again, SOP. OH, , the horn started beeping... and I've got an arm full of groceries on the side where my keys are. That day two things happened... I discovered that my truck had an alarm, and I became that guy people hate for setting off their car alarm.

The “Urban Lullaby”. . .

 

[ovrszd]

Oh, I get it now.