Are prices like this everywhere?

   / Are prices like this everywhere? #121  
One thing I had to consider was I was getting married when my then fiancé and I bought our fist house. I wasn't going to put my wife in a sketchy neighborhood. So we bought on the EDGE of a sketchy neighborhood. 😂 It served us well for 11 years, but when our child turned 3 we saw the neighborhood getting rougher, so we moved.

Now some would say the neighborhood we moved into is sketchy, but it's not. It's lower income, but very little crime. A good mix of adults of every ethnicity. Can't say I ever see teenagers out and about anymore.

We thought about keeping our first house as a rental. Instead, we put it in a blanket mortgage with this house to get over 20% equity in the total so we could buy this house with no money down and no need for the mortgage insurance. Then we sold that 1st house and put it all down on this house, which gave us about 60% equity in this house, which we would have paid off in 5 years, had my father not passed away. He left us enough to pay it off 2 years early, so that was a nice 2 year boost in savings.

As I've mentioned before, I'm not cut out to deal with renters due to my past experiences helping my father manage and liquidate the units his parents could no longer manage due to bad tenants.

I have no regrets on that decision and neither does my wife.

About the only regret I have is not purchasing a duplex or triplex in Lafayette, IN before my kids went to Purdue! Had I known both of them were going to go there, it would have saved $80K in rent over 9 years, plus the other tenants would have helped towards the purchase cost, plus the housing market went nuts right after the last one graduated, and we could have made a small fortune by selling it.

Ah good old 20/20 hindsight. :ROFLMAO:
Several Docs bought rent homes when their kids went off to UCLA and Santa Barbara and Berkeley.

My first little 1910 cottage of 600 square feet was in the heart of the worst neighborhood in what is called deep East Oakland.

Came home and said I made an offer on a house… you did what???and the next day the Realtor called to congratulate me!

When I bought the neighborhood was 100% African American and now is 100% Spanish Speaking… it never went through the Asian ownership phase as many others in the city.

My step grandfather came to take a look and told my grandmother I had just flushed my life savings but I was young and would learn the hard way.

She asked if he shared his thoughts and said no because I was so excited about being a homeowner at 21… sure it was to be condemned but I had 10 days to reverse that and did.

That little home no one wanted cost me $11,500 to buy and last year was over 400k but even if it drops 50% I’m still good… only second renter since I moved.
 
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   / Are prices like this everywhere? #123  
We bought a new car a couple of years ago and a promotional rebate was only available if it was financed, so we financed it and paid it off a couple of months later. I believe our score was around 850. We had not had any debts for several years before that. Credit card is paid off monthly.
850 is perfect FICO… almost mythical but does exist…

You can write your own ticket as they say…
 
   / Are prices like this everywhere? #124  
Several if the Docs bought a rental when their kids went off to UCLA and Santa Barbara and Berkeley.

My first little 1910 cottage of 600 square feet was in the heart of the worst neighborhood in what is called deep East Oakland.

Came home and said I made an offer on a house… you did what and the next day the Realtor called to congratulate me!

When I bought the neighborhood was 100% African American and now is 100% Spanish Speaking… it never went through the Asian ownership phase as many others in the city.

My step grandfather came to take a look and told my grandmother I had just flushed my life savings but I was young and would learn the hard way.

She asked if he shared his thoughts and said no because I was so excited about being a homeowner at 21… sure it was to be condemned but I had 10 days to reverse that and did.

That little home no one wanted cost me $11,500 and last year was over 400k but even if it drops 50% I’m still good… only second renter since I moved.
Here, that would be a freak situation. Housing just does not appreciate on that level.

We bought our first house for $20K in 1985. Today, it's shown as having a value of about $61K. It says the rent potential is about $950 per month, which is just about the same as what a mortgage payment would be.

We sold it to a Hispanic homesteading company that provided Hispanic buyers with reasonable financing to purchase, rather than rent, housing. Home ownership increases the value of a neighborhood overall VS rental units, and people that rent get no return if they move VS building equity in a house. That company has done a lot for first time home buyers on that side of town.

Here's a current street view of it. I installed that roof, the fence, and my mom and I planted that Hawthorn tree to the right. There's a Korean Lilac hedge along the alley.

Someone installed new siding, and they've removed most of the 50s shrubbery and added that brick planter around the house. Other than that, not much has changed in appearance or value.

We've been out of there about 25 years now.

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   / Are prices like this everywhere? #125  
Another example, our current house. Purchased for $65 around 1995. Today shows value of around $130. They just don't go up that much around here.

Other areas near us do increase on a better level, but nothing like what you're seeing out there.
 
   / Are prices like this everywhere? #126  
Here, that would be a freak situation. Housing just does not appreciate on that level.

We bought our first house for $20K in 1985. Today, it's shown as having a value of about $61K. It says the rent potential is about $950 per month, which is just about the same as what a mortgage payment would be.

We sold it to a Hispanic homesteading company that provided Hispanic buyers with reasonable financing to purchase, rather than rent, housing. Home ownership increases the value of a neighborhood overall VS rental units, and people that rent get no return if they move VS building equity in a house. That company has done a lot for first time home buyers on that side of town.

Here's a current street view of it. I installed that roof, the fence, and my mom and I planted that Hawthorn tree to the right. There's a Korean Lilac hedge along the alley.

Someone installed new siding, and they've removed most of the 50s shrubbery and added that brick planter around the house. Other than that, not much has changed in appearance or value.

We've been out of there about 25 years now.

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650-700k in Oakland and add a million to make it 1.7m in SF and a little less in San Jose metro…
 
   / Are prices like this everywhere? #128  
What's the old saying???

Location.
Location.
Location.
Condition Condition Condition and very bad location... even my drywall sheets stolen... found them in a corner storefront church!

Kitchen before and after!

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   / Are prices like this everywhere? #129  
No, it does not.
No loans here ever (aside from a very small student loan that was paid off before I was done with school), a couple of credit cards, a store card and a gas card, all paid off every month.
Credit score is over 800 and the credit card that we primarily use keeps bumping the limit up without us asking.

Aaron Z

I'm going to just leave this here.

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I'll state this again...if you have no credit amounts owed, no new credit, have no credit mix, the best you can get is 50% of a formulated score. It's mathematically impossible to have a high score when you don't have those areas contributing to the overall.

I love the overly optimistic tone, but I have reservations.
 
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Passed this one this morning. Hard to read, but on the side the logo reads “Hybrid”. Uncle Joe is pushing everyone off gas and diesel.
Hybrid means it has 2 power sources, a conventional engine (probably diesel) as well as batteries.
 

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