Trespassers

[ponytug]

Our town has let many trees trim themselves. Since we have a lot of dead ash, they take out power.
Wouldn't mind them showing up and blocking our road.
Why would they need to be showing up so often? I guess they are on the clock

Yea, they are contracted by the power company. If they trim them back too far there won't be any work the next year.

Around here, there is a maximum amount that is allowed to be cut back. You could argue it is continued work for the tree trimmers, but my sense is that was enacted to have healthier trees.

All the best,

Peter

 

[buckeyefarmer]

One of my longest outages, is because tree trimmers left dead trees standing, but cut down a really big healthy tree (and left it blocking my trail to my creek area). Next winter the dead tree fell, as I predicted.

 

[turnkey4099]

Years ago, I subdivided off a 2 acre parcel and sold it to the daughter of a good friend & neighbor. She built a nice little house on the lot and kept the place looking neat. The idea was, she would be nearby to care for her ailing father.

Well, she married an idiot who totally ignores the property line. Every year, he mows an extra tractor width onto my land. Now his "yard" is 50' beyond the property line into my pasture. He even stacks his firewood there!

My neighbor friend is 86 and not in good health. I want to put up a fence on the property line but I don't want to risk causing family problems which he doesn't need right now. The pasture is fallow and I have no plans to do anything with it in the near future. My wife and I feel the best thing to do is not say anything and just wait.

My neighbor is a real nice guy and I don't know what he did to deserve this jerk for a son in law.

Not doing anything is levaing it open of 'squaters rights' In this state IIRC 7 years 'open and notorious' use' (i.e., owner knew and didn't do anythibng) the user can claim the land. One of the recommented things is a certified letter to the trespasser every few years renewing the status of the boundary.

 

[Jstpssng]

Been tempted many times, but it's a good way to get punched. Better to immediately lay on horn and don't let up for a few blocks.

These days it's a good way to get shot... and I posted earlier this year about the last time that I laid on the horn at somebody who was parked blocking a major highway.

I still have the dents from his fists... I leave them there as a reminder of how little it takes to trigger some people.

 

[IndyJay]

Not doing anything is levaing it open of 'squaters rights' In this state IIRC 7 years 'open and notorious' use' (i.e., owner knew and didn't do anythibng) the user can claim the land. One of the recommented things is a certified letter to the trespasser every few years renewing the status of the boundary.

I was wondering about that as well. My property, in back corner over the hill, has a dead end road cutting across it. My neighbor's driveway and part of his yard sits on it. He got concerned that a future owner of my place might be an ass about it. I told him to get it surveyed and written up and I would sign it over.

Attorney told him not to worry, that since it had been there that long it was "implied" ownership. It is only a couple thousand square feet on the corner of the property down over a thick wooded hill.

 

[MossRoad]

These days it's a good way to get shot... and I posted earlier this year about the last time that I laid on the horn at somebody who was parked blocking a major highway.

I still have the dents from his fists... I leave them there as a reminder of how little it takes to trigger some people.

Yeah it is.

 

[dodge man]

I was wondering about that as well. My property, in back corner over the hill, has a dead end road cutting across it. My neighbor's driveway and part of his yard sits on it. He got concerned that a future owner of my place might be an ass about it. I told him to get it surveyed and written up and I would sign it over.

Attorney told him not to worry, that since it had been there that long it was "implied" ownership. It is only a couple thousand square feet on the corner of the property down over a thick wooded hill.

I’d say the attorney is technically correct. Right now it’s not an issue but in the future you get a couple of land owners butting heads it ends up in court.

 

[kenmbz]

For our shared road it is written on both deeds that I have access rights since my neighbor owns the road.

 

[shooterdon]

As to "implied ownership", you may still need to go to court if someone decides to challenge your "rights". That can get expensive, and you cannot recover court costs (at least in MI) even if you "win". My friend is dealing with something like this and so far has spent $25k.

 

[newbury]

I was wondering about that as well. My property, in back corner over the hill, has a dead end road cutting across it. My neighbor's driveway and part of his yard sits on it. He got concerned that a future owner of my place might be an ass about it. I told him to get it surveyed and written up and I would sign it over.

Attorney told him not to worry, that since it had been there that long it was "implied" ownership. It is only a couple thousand square feet on the corner of the property down over a thick wooded hill.

A couple thousand square feet can mean a "lot" to many people.

 

[Jstpssng]

A couple thousand square feet can mean a "lot" to many people.

Especially to somebody who needs it to enter and exit their property.

 

[TheMan419]

I am continually amazed at how incompetent some people are about their own property lines. We have a fellow in this area who has encroached onto every property adjacent to his. Nice guy, but I believe he’s just really dumb. I don’t understand that because if there’s one thing I take the time to know well, it’s my property lines.

Buckeyefarmer, if you keep having issues, try to come to a neutral agreement with the neighbor to have an independent survey done and whoever is wrong will pay the cost. Sometimes that’s enough to call their bluff when they learn the cost.

To my north is a road, to the east is a county maintained drainage ditch. To the south is woods. In that woods there is an old fence line that I suspect approximates the property line. To my west it is an open field to the neighbor. There is a line of poles on that line. Line is ~1200 feet. There are 3 or 4 poles on that line that I suspect approximates the property line. Other than that I do not know EXACTLY where the lines are. However the neighbor to the west and I have agreed to just mow about to the post line. If he comes a bit over on my side to mow or me a bit on his side we don't really care. We both just want the area to look neat and tidy.

 

[tradosaurus]

I cut a 1.1 mile walking trail around my 45 acres. On part of it I cut the trail close to the existing barbed wire fence.
I assumed the fence was the property line but after looking at my survey I found out my trail is on the neighbors property.

 

[MossRoad]

To my north is a road, to the east is a county maintained drainage ditch. To the south is woods. In that woods there is an old fence line that I suspect approximates the property line. To my west it is an open field to the neighbor. There is a line of poles on that line. Line is ~1200 feet. There are 3 or 4 poles on that line that I suspect approximates the property line. Other than that I do not know EXACTLY where the lines are. However the neighbor to the west and I have agreed to just mow about to the post line. If he comes a bit over on my side to mow or me a bit on his side we don't really care. We both just want the area to look neat and tidy.

When we lived in the city, we lived on a corner lot. The neighbor behind us liked to mow our side yard that face our side street, which his house faced. That way, it looked neat and tidy and like he had a much larger front yard than he really did. I did not mind, because that too care of 1/3 of my mowing. So in return, I'd do all their snow in the winter. Their sidewalk up to their front door, and the entire alley on our other side, back to their garage and their driveway.

It's pretty nice having neighbors that you like and get along with.

 

[kenmbz]

My neighbor travels a lot. When a tree falls of it snows I take care of their driveway.
I care for most of the shared road.
If he is home, he will start plowing if I haven't done it yet.
So we work pretty well.
Once I had to cover them for a whole winter, they got me a restaurant gift card.

Nice to have them next door.

 

[Torvy]

When we lived in the city, we lived on a corner lot. The neighbor behind us liked to mow our side yard that face our side street, which his house faced. That way, it looked neat and tidy and like he had a much larger front yard than he really did. I did not mind, because that too care of 1/3 of my mowing. So in return, I'd do all their snow in the winter. Their sidewalk up to their front door, and the entire alley on our other side, back to their garage and their driveway.

It's pretty nice having neighbors that you like and get along with.

Reminds me of how things were when we lived in Waukesha. 1st one out with the snow blower usually did about 3-4 houses worth of sidewalks. If anyone was injured or out of town, the rest of us just did the driveways, too. It was a strange, unspoken agreement. I always figured that once I went the first 50 feet, it was easy to just keep going. The sidewalk police would ticket you if you didn't get them cleared.

I've had bad neighbors. Really makes you appreciate good ones.

 

[Jstpssng]

I've had bad neighbors. Really makes you appreciate good ones.

I've read about bad neighbors here. Really makes me appreciate the ones I have.

 

[MossRoad]

The black X was our first house.
The people behind us were in their early 80s when we moved in.
The people next to them were as well.
The green stripes was what the neighbor would mow 3 seasons so the Polish stripes would match his lawn (It's a Polish joke in our area).
The blue lines are what snow I'd remove in winter.

I think about everyone on that block was retired and we were the only ones in our 20s!

We became great friends with several, but the ones right behind us were the best. We could talk to each other while eating if the windows were open. We'd go for Sunday drives with them, and I'd go fishing with him. Sometimes they'd bring us a ton of fruit and then it was a race to see if she or my wife could get the other one a pie first!

I miss them. He passed away after we lived there about 8 years, and she moved away with her daughter.

 

[MossRoad]

Had to edit the photo... the more I thought about it, the more snow I cleared!

All of those "old" folks in the neighborhood found out I had a degree in TV repair, so I was constantly helping them with their massive Curtis Mathes TVs.

the "most expensive television set in America, and darn well worth it",



I was offered a lot of cocktails at noon!

 

[ponytug]

The black X was our first house.
The people behind us were in their early 80s when we moved in.
The people next to them were as well.
The green stripes was what the neighbor would mow 3 seasons so the Polish stripes would match his lawn (It's a Polish joke in our area).
The blue lines are what snow I'd remove in winter.

I think about everyone on that block was retired and we were the only ones in our 20s!

We became great friends with several, but the ones right behind us were the best. We could talk to each other while eating if the windows were open. We'd go for Sunday drives with them, and I'd go fishing with him. Sometimes they'd bring us a ton of fruit and then it was a race to see if she or my wife could get the other one a pie first!

I miss them. He passed away after we lived there about 8 years, and she moved away with her daughter.

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Sounds like awesome neighbors, but especially awesome first neighbors.

All the best,

Peter