Fighting 'Solar Farm' Installation

[Grumpycat]

You take enough fertile land out of production and at some point people starve or have to revert to the 'Soylent Green' existence.

Then if only we had a free market the market forces would make a correction. But if we have a government dictated market who picks winners and losers on some arbitrary value system, then we get stuck with a "solution" which is always wrong.

Is wrong to say the "solution" is an EV. Is wrong to say the "solution" is ethanol. Is just as wrong to say a man can not elect to grow a crop of kWh from sunlight as it is to say he must grow any other approved crop.

 

[Grumpycat]

The tornado question is pretty smart because you have to wonder how far a tornado could blow solar panels and what kind of damage could be caused? A flying solar panel could be lethal.

What object "flying through the air" in a tornado is not lethal? Plenty of tornado stories of golf balls from driving ranges being found driven through concrete walls.

 

[lman]

Then if only we had a free market the market forces would make a correction. But if we have a government dictated market who picks winners and losers on some arbitrary value system, then we get stuck with a "solution" which is always wrong.

Is wrong to say the "solution" is an EV. Is wrong to say the "solution" is ethanol. Is just as wrong to say a man can not elect to grow a crop of kWh from sunlight as it is to say he must grow any other approved crop.

I guess we need to make some changes then.

“The current administration and the EPA are proposing unrealistic emissions standards to try to push the public further than they are willing to go. This plan is totally disconnected by the reality of our supply chain and energy infrastructure, and will result in the U.S. depending even more on China for raw rare earth minerals that the Biden administration doesn’t allow to be mined here. I ran a shipping and logistics business for 37 years, so I know this kind of overbearing government overreach will make everything more expensive.” – Mike Braun

 

[Grumpycat]

If you buy Tier 1 equipment the inverters are good for 20 years.

That is the problem with non-Tesla DC charging stations. The operators bought low-bid hardware which has proven unreliable.

Tesla Superchargers are highly reliable. Electrify America (the golden child of VW diesel fines) is not.

 

[Grumpycat]

I guess we need to make some changes then.

“The current administration and the EPA are proposing unrealistic emissions standards to try to push the public further than they are willing to go. This plan is totally disconnected by the reality of our supply chain and energy infrastructure, and will result in the U.S. depending even more on China for raw rare earth minerals that the ***** administration doesn’t allow to be mined here. I ran a shipping and logistics business for 37 years, so I know this kind of overbearing government overreach will make everything more expensive.” – Mike Braun

Agree, the government is totally in the wrong here.

 

[Grumpycat]

There is something about land growing grass, trees, livestock, or crops that's just more appealing than it being covered in asphalt or solar panels.

Why is it for you to decide what I do with my land?

 

[Grumpycat]

Just in the past few weeks we have seen devastating tornado damage across several states. With the increasing number of solar farms we probably will see soon what happens when a tornado rips through one. Looking at the severe damage caused just in the past few weeks I seriously doubt these solar panels will stay put no matter what wind ratings they have. When you have 50-100 acres of solar panels you could be looking at 2000 panels per acre or 100,000 to 200,000 panels.

What happens when/if a tornado rips through a gas-fired electric power plant? How is one different from the other?

 

[TN8Man]

Damage occurs and power goes out but at least they don't have million of flying guillotine's.

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[Hay Dude]

Why will their property value go to nearly nothing? The solar farm will spoil the view they did not own?

You know the old adage about Real Estate
Location, Location, Location.

Locating next to a 100 acre heat sink with enough mirrors to blind Godzilla isn’t considered a good location.

 

[Hay Dude]

Gotta love the cell tower NIMBYs, never let the facts get in the way of a good rant. I don't know where you get the idea that there are people at these sites at all hours of the day & night. I spent 25 years working on communications gear, much of it installed at cell sites, and months could go by where no one visited a given site at all. Most of these towers are in relatively isolated areas, on mountain/hilltops to get the best coverage. They don't cause cancer either.

Cell phone towers are about to go the way of the coal fired power plant.

Elon Musk told me so.

And I believe him. I’m pushing most of my poker chips towards him on this venture.