Fighting 'Solar Farm' Installation

[Hay Dude]

but at least us flat earth people know that mankind can't control the climate, there are two genders, and that women have two x chromosomes (no variation) and men have an x and a y. (some variation but never both without the other). Kind of a good formula for the existence of life's generations either on a flat or round earth. (actually spherical as it is Flattened at the poles and bulges at the equator.) but you knew this.....

And that God is the creator.

 

[kenmbz]

Man can't control the climate, but he sure can mess it up big time.

 

[Hay Dude]

Man can't control the climate, but he sure can mess it up big time.

I don’t know to the extent of which he can mess up the air/atmosphere or cause temperature change. Nobody can really prove it.
I am all for reducing emissions, as long as we do it without enriching china and making it the world super power because we are too stupid to not make windmills and solar panels HERE.

I’d be a lot more optimistic about deploying more of them if we were making everything HERE.

The downside of leaving FF behind is that is a huge part of our economy we are decoupling from. We cannot afford to offshore more. We have lost way too much.

 

[tradosaurus]

I'm a 40 year old with undergraduates in biology and environmental science. Masters courses in climate study, weather and climate change. I would expect someone with a degree in engineering to have a better understanding of data collection.

Go spout your science denial somewhere else.

Figures Don't Lie But Liars Do Figure

 

[walhondingMF]

from National Geographic

"Weathering describes the breaking down or dissolving of rocks and minerals on the surface of the Earth. Water, ice, acids, salts, plants, animals, and changes in temperature are all agents of weathering."

Would we fall head first?

Yes. Your head is like the buttered side of a piece of bread...

 

[bvanek]

"those who think they know it all have no way of finding out they don't"

reference pending

 

[MossRoad]

Yes. Your head is like the buttered side of a piece of bread...

No need to be rude!

 

[bnold]

I am all for reducing emissions, as long as we do it without enriching china and making it the world super power because we are too stupid to not make ALL the windmills and solar panels HERE.

I’d be a lot more optimistic about deploying more of them if we were making everything HERE.

The downside of leaving FF behind is that is a huge part of our economy we are decoupling from. We cannot afford to offshore more. We have lost way too much.

Your consistent argument for most everything is: 100% manufacturing on US soil by US companies, including raw material sourcing, I’d like to hear your approach to how this could be achieved without impacting the 2nd part above (economy).

Quick google search about 500 manufacturing related companies on US soil for wind. Of course many foreign owned (not just China, but many European countries as well)

Same with Solar, with China and South Korea and others being the leading manufacturer of cells, there are a number of US companies that manufacture panels using those cells. Some US owned and many foreign owned.

Do you feel the same way about foreign companies manufacturing on US soil employing US citizens?

There was a pretty significant tariff in place for imported panels (30% or something) to try and make US competitive in the market. Recent admin squashed it to try and bring prices down, recently tariffs may be coming back (not tracking closely).

 

[Hay Dude]

Your consistent argument for most everything is: 100% manufacturing on US soil by US companies, including raw material sourcing, I’d like to hear your approach to how this could be achieved without impacting the 2nd part above (economy).

Quick google search about 500 manufacturing related companies on US soil for wind. Of course many foreign owned (not just China, but many European countries as well)

Same with Solar, with China and South Korea and others being the leading manufacturer of cells, there are a number of US companies that manufacture panels using those cells. Some US owned and many foreign owned.

Do you feel the same way about foreign companies manufacturing on US soil employing US citizens?

There was a pretty significant tariff in place for imported panels (30% or something) to try and make US competitive in the market. Recent admin squashed it to try and bring prices down, recently tariffs may be coming back (not tracking closely).

Never said 100%.
8 of the 10 largest solar companies are china.
If you want to make a drastic change, it’s best to put AMERICA first, not China

 

[bnold]

Never said 100%.
8 of the 10 largest solar companies are china.
If you want to make a drastic change, it’s best to put AMERICA first, not China

I’m asking how. What is the proposal?
I’d love to buy and support more US products. But I have limits to how far above and beyond market I’m willing to go.

A 30% import premium on the China panels wasn’t enough.