Not using all my horses by design??

   / Not using all my horses by design??
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#31  
If it's new and 108 horsepower like you say it is, it will have both SCR and DEF injection.

Starting to think you are blowing smoke.
Hey. I don't recall saying it's new. I did say it has 1300hrs though. It does not have DEF. It may have a scr though. No regen cycle as far as I know.
 
   / Not using all my horses by design??
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#32  
No DEF fluid in the 7060 you listed, but M5 and larger Kubota's use DEF fluid along with the DPF and all do regens.
I see this specific point is exceptionally important for you. The tractor I'm looking at is a 2007. 2008 is when the EPA started the general requirements for DEF and regens with it rolling into pretty much all tractors 70hp+ around 2013ish. There were early adoptors in 2006/7 but this tractor wasn't one of them. Again as this tractor was prior to the EPAs DEF emission for the HP class, there is no DEF or regen that I am aware of. Theres also no DEF tank and the exhaust comes right from the back of the turbo and exits below the tractor from the factory - no catalytic converter....

Im hoping we can get off this side track and back to the initial question I asked for help on.
 
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   / Not using all my horses by design?? #33  
What? Stay focused on the question. Ah-er-uhm.... do you know who you are talking to here - lol
PS: Torque nut this is for you.
We all know what torque is and what hp is. Hp is a ridiculous measure of power. But hp is how tractors have been rated and categorized forever. So we use it knowing full well that is is not the same as torque. Sheesh.
Stay focused
 
   / Not using all my horses by design?? #34  
What? Stay focused on the question. Ah-er-uhm.... do you know who you are talking to here - lol
PS: Torque nut this is for you.
We all know what torque is and what hp is. Hp is a ridiculous measure of power. But hp is how tractors have been rated and categorized forever. So we use it knowing full well that is is not the same as torque. Sheesh.
Stay focused
Sorry it just sounds ridiculous referencing the need for HP when plowing. Its like bragging about a 500psi air compressor that only holds 1/100 of a cubic foot. Lots of pressure but cant do any work. Any reputable tractor manufacturer will list their HP and torque specs i just suggest you give them a look before buying
 
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   / Not using all my horses by design??
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Sorry it just sounds ridiculous referencing the need for HP when plowing. Its like bragging about a 500psi air compressor that only holds 1/100 of a cubic foot. Lots of pressure but cant do any work. Any reputable tractor manufacturer will list their HP and torque specs i just suggest you give them a look before buying
Please stop hijacking this tread. This is in no way related to my initial question and should probably be it's own post. Scootr is correct in that the industry operates on HP ratings for equiptment and tractors. Regardless of its erroneousity, it is the industry standard and the basis of the question.

Does any one have information on my original question without all this side tracked trolling?
 
   / Not using all my horses by design?? #36  
Over the years I've had three 50 hp tractors and a 50 hp Skid Steer. This category is what I call full size.
I do mostly ranch maintenance, road maintenance, light to medium grading, and material moving.
Most of that work could be accomplished with a smaller tractor but I grew up on a Ford 455 and MF30B.
When you need the power it's nice to have it. Honestly, sometimes I wish the MX was bigger and sometimes I wish it was smaller...so I guess it seems just right.
 
   / Not using all my horses by design?? #37  
Please stop hijacking this tread. This is in no way related to my initial question and should probably be it's own post. Scootr is correct in that the industry operates on HP ratings for equiptment and tractors. Regardless of its erroneousity, it is the industry standard and the basis of the question.

Does any one have information on my original question without all this side tracked trolling?
Good luck in your tractor buying hope you figure out your question.
Over the years I've had three 50 hp tractors and a 50 hp Skid Steer. This category is what I call full size.
I do mostly ranch maintenance, road maintenance, light to medium grading, and material moving.
Most of that work could be accomplished with a smaller tractor but I grew up on a Ford 455 and MF30B.
When you need the power it's nice to have it. Honestly, sometimes I wish the MX was bigger and sometimes I wish it was smaller...so I guess it seems just right.
Just LOL.
 
   / Not using all my horses by design?? #38  
I try not to put people on my ignore list. But you are making that difficult.
Quote this post to start the list. Have a nice day.
 
   / Not using all my horses by design?? #39  
I try not to put people on my ignore list. But you are making that difficult.
Quote this post to start the list. Have a nice day.
I'd be honored. Never had a full sized tractor owner put me on ignore before.
 
   / Not using all my horses by design?? #40  
Please stop hijacking this tread. This is in no way related to my initial question and should probably be it's own post. Scootr is correct in that the industry operates on HP ratings for equiptment and tractors. Regardless of its erroneousity, it is the industry standard and the basis of the question.

Does any one have information on my original question without all this side tracked trolling?
Sure. We all know the answer. I think you do too.

Since you are looking at a pre emissions model, there is no downside to running a higher hp tractor at a lower rpm. Old style pre emission tractors have flat torque over a wide RPM range, so using a larger pre-emissions diesel at lower rpm will just end up taking a little longer to do the job and burn less fuel in the process.
No real downside for individual use. You can even use lower HP implements that way.

We run our 90 hp pre-emissions tractor at about 1/3 rated rpm when not using the PTO. Since the torque on that engine is flat from idle to full rpm, it becomes a rather heavy 30 hp tractor and uses proportionately less fuel. For PTO use, select a lower gear.

rScotty
 

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