I love electric vehicles. But increasingly I feel duped

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   / I love electric vehicles. But increasingly I feel duped #201  
So strange on TBN there's the Battery based vehicle thread, basically a handful of posters who are Elon worshipers. I posed so many questions, lots of nasty replies and I said choices...what's wrong with choices? We're led to believe the EV switch is saving the planet which does the opposite! Finally I was told basically if Bob wants to spend $60K on a Tesla, what's the difference? He would have spent $60K on a BMW anyway.
I'm amazed how many sheeple-people there are, no reasoning, but doing things by succumbing to compliance (i.e., mandate), or trying to impress, or being "woke" (woke is a joke).
I hate being lied to!
 
   / I love electric vehicles. But increasingly I feel duped #202  
Best thing you can do now is prepare. I really hate it. If you can't produce you are going to have to live by their rules. There are going to be a lot of people pretending that plant based or lab grown meat is delicious in the next few years. We are determined to not be in that group.

It's a terrifying thought; my brain and body are not where they ought be, through poor decisions I've made all on my own. I'm trying to improve, to get where I'll need to be for my family, but even with years of head start I'm not where I ought to be. I'm pretty good at self-sabotage, so having wrenches thrown into the mix isn't doing me any favors.

Of course, that's the point I suppose.
 
   / I love electric vehicles. But increasingly I feel duped #203  
Why is buying a 60K EV compared to an ICE vehicle? Last I saw there’s plenty of 5-10K used ICE vehicles out there for sale.
 
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It's a terrifying thought; my brain and body are not where they ought be, through poor decisions I've made all on my own. I'm trying to improve, to get where I'll need to be for my family, but even with years of head start I'm not where I ought to be. I'm pretty good at self-sabotage, so having wrenches thrown into the mix isn't doing me any favors.

Of course, that's the point I suppose.
We are in the same boat. Nowhere near where we need to be. Our debt is my biggest worry. We have invested so much into what we have going on it scares me. We have not gone out to eat, we dont buy new clothes, or cars or really anything materialistic everything we buy is geared to being able to take care of ourselves. Most of our debt is farm supplies and tools.
 
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Why is buying a 60K EV compared to an ICE vehicle? Last I saw there’s plenty of 5-10K used ICE vehicles out there for sale.
Exactly. Now, don't get me wrong...this certainly isn't my dream car ()...but a brand new Elantra at a dealer near me. MSRP $22K. We've had them before. 100K mile/10 yr. warranty. 40mpg hwy. They ride & handle ok. All we want to do is grocery shop, restaurant, take a vacation...it gets the job done.
Electricity isn't free, although some believe paying $××,××× for solar panels it is free!
How much gas can you buy if you save $30-$40K?
We were in a friend's brand new Elantra a few years ago, stopped at a light, rear-ended and car totalled but we were fine.
I just can't understand the joy of an EV. Imagine a vacation...waiting for a charge?
A friend bought one and their electric bill doubled! That amount included miles driven is more than we pay for fuel!
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   / I love electric vehicles. But increasingly I feel duped #207  
IMHO GM will go belly up and they just got I don't remember if it was $900 billion from congress and they do;n't seem to be selling
very many cars/trucks. Ford with there problems are not doing very well either don't know about Chrystler
The idiots want to do away with COAL, OIL so what will power all
these so; call electric cars/trucks???????? People with electric
cars will deffently have to have solar power as the grid can not or
will not be capable of supply all the electric power needed.
When congress steps in its like a case of Hemorrhoids as you
can do very nicely without them!!!!!!!!!

willy
 
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Why is buying a 60K EV compared to an ICE vehicle? Last I saw there’s plenty of 5-10K used ICE vehicles out there for sale.


Why is the cost of a new vehicle compared to a new vehicle? That 5-10k used ice may have been 50k new? What is the argument?

Don’t know much about a Lightning, why is a charger/connection so expensive? What is a Tesla connector now? $500-600?

I expect it will be a long long time before EVs are mandated in Texas… we like our fossil fuels. Enjoy my EV as well. Glad to have the choice.
 
   / I love electric vehicles. But increasingly I feel duped #209  
Imagine what electricity will cost when they take away gasoline!

That’s the end game right there. That’s their unicorn & rainbow dream.
They can also control the flow of it and who gets it.
 
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   / I love electric vehicles. But increasingly I feel duped #210  
IMHO GM will go belly up and they just got I don't remember if it was $900 billion from congress and they do;n't seem to be selling
very many cars/trucks. Ford with there problems are not doing very well either don't know about Chrystler
The idiots want to do away with COAL, OIL so what will power all
these so; call electric cars/trucks???????? People with electric
cars will deffently have to have solar power as the grid can not or
will not be capable of supply all the electric power needed.
When congress steps in its like a case of Hemorrhoids as you
can do very nicely without them!!!!!!!!!

willy

I’m guessing Ford goes first. They lost billions on EV’s in the last few quarters.
They are woke as crazy gets and are hemorrhaging cash.

My guess is the G____ment will flood their coffers with more money confiscated by American taxpayers, or they will print more causing inflation to worsen.
 
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