Help Me Design/ Build a Shop

[civilian]

Can you just do the final cleanup pass with the bucket teeth flat to the bottom of the footing? I try to do that with electrical and/or water trenches. My concrete man actually had a steel attachment made to go over the teeth. Worked slick, but made to order by local fabricator. Jon

 

[EddieWalker]

Just keep the bucket flat on the bottom of the trench and it will be fine.

 

[LittleBittyBigJohn]

I went to go pay my deposit and saw this laying out. Thought I would share a picture to show what the framework looks like. This is trusses, girts and purlins. The trusses will be bolted onto I-beams that are fabricated with mounting pates.

 

[Torvy]

Looking good. I had mine built 30×40x16 with a lot of the same concepts you mentioned in your original post. I wish I had done a couple of things differently.

1) my tractor door is 8x10. Probably should have gone 10x10. There's plenty of room, but I have to be lined up just right. I do have a lean-to that is 20x8 so I can keep it outside most of the time.

2) Should have gone bigger. Another 10 ft in either dirwction(or both) would have been nice.

Things I like about our build.

1) had the builders frame the living space (10×30) and put a ceiling over it. That lofted space is great for storage. I can even lift to the loft with my FEL.

2) height..it looks huge and it is. That lofted space has 7-11 ft above so I can stack or suspend stored items.

3) went with wood framing and insulated metal siding and roof. 6" downspouts for the heavy rain we get. The termite problem can be mitigated the same way as the house. Have professionals do the treatment and do it as per their schedule after. I just couldn't afford metal framing in time or money.

 

[BigBlue1]

I just started building my house, and all but decided to wait on the shop. My wife and parents are on me about going ahead and building it while the house is going up.... They have a point, I really want a shop and need indoor storage for several things. We are planning on this being our retirement spot. I'm 40 and My wife is 44 so it needs to last for many decades.

My dream was a 50x60x12 red iron framed building. With inflation driving the price of the house so high, not to mention the shop price, that is not in the cards. Now hoping for at least 40x50x12. I know I can get 40' wood trusses, potentially 45'.

Proposed style.

A) Red iron frame - too expensive
B) Post Frame - Wood in the ground, Rot, Termites etc. Longevity? Much worry.
C) Stick built - Looks like potentially the best option for me.

You're probably beyond the planning phase by now, but I just saw the thread and wanted to add a few comments:

Wood trusses can be made much larger than 45'. There's a local truss company I'm very familiar with that makes them out to at least 80', possibly even 100'. There are a lot of big pole buildings up around my area.

Your comments about worrying about post frame design... I can't speak to termites, but rot is not a issue. Plenty of pole barns around here pushing 40+ years. They have a lot of longevity.

Rob

 

[LittleBittyBigJohn]

I spent so much time deliberating the type of frame I wanted I was just tired of dealing with it and went with the steel. I probably would have preferred stick built but it was going to be more expensive than the steel.

The one I went with is going to cost a little more than a pole barn but not as much as stick or red iron from the research I did. I'll have lots of extra ceiling height for the heat to rise, storage, and if I want to build a loft later, or put in a lift. And there is not a single inch of wood so there is no worry of any rot or termites. I'm sure it wouldn't have been a problem but it would have been in the back of my mind forever.

 

[two_bit_score]

Great job LBBJ!

 

[LittleBittyBigJohn]

The building delivered this week and the bathroom plumbing is done.

 

[civilian]

That sure does not seem like enough material for a building of any size. But I am thinking of all the loads of wood, trusses, windows, shingle, etc for my buildings. Jon

 

[LittleBittyBigJohn]

Day 1 of erection. Heh can i day that word?