Question for those who live in California

[ultrarunner]

Some stay due to family and some move due to family.

I do know well off individuals who severed all ties so they could die in a State with no State Income Tax...

Nevada has been popular destination.

I live in East Oakland CA and can honestly say seem to have good to great neighbors everywhere I've lived.

If you fear your neighbors not much you can do but pull up stakes and leave.

For years I have zeroed in on western WA but WA has problems and not necessarily less expensive plus the current reports is drug cartels setting up shop in semi rural areas... go figure.

'That level of violence is terrifying': Mexican cartel targets tranquil Puget Sound city

Selecting a town like Port Orchard, Washington, is indicative of a key CJNG strategy to reach tentacles into small, unexpected corners of America.

www.usatoday.com

First time in history CA population is in decline... so folks leaving is real.

Growing up half my grade school classmates were transplants... many with parents working in defense or tech... even had a classmate who came to California because her father joined the Oakland Raider player rooster.

Many in college were also non native California...

One truism for those leaving it can be near impossible to come back and duplicate what you had...

 

[MTGreen]

Given we only have one son, depending on where he settles down, we can see ourselves moving perhaps later on in our years.

After spending two weeks traveling around the Sierra Nevada's (and a couple of days driving down Rt 1 from Sand Fran to Big Sur), we could see ourselves somewhere in the vincinity.

Besides that, we we retire, my wife will want to downsize the rule is one going to be 3 rifles, 3 handguns and 3 shotguns with only 1 safe and give / sell everything else LOL

Pick any 3 there's surely an "illegal" one per the PRKalifornia

 

[Sigarms]

Pick any 3 there's surely an "illegal" one per the PRKalifornia

I lived in NY, I know the "rules"

 

[EddieWalker]

I grew up in the East Bay of California and my first home was close enough to the Oakland Coliseum that I could see the fireworks shows at the games from my front porch. I left in 2002 for a list of reasons, and from what I understand, it's only gotten worse. Crime was bad then, but there wasn't any tent cities when I lived there.

The problem with living in California is that you have to know what areas to avoid. When I drove for UPS, we had to be out of certain neighborhoods by noon. Crime just got to bad once the criminals woke up. We would drive past 4 grocery stores to get to a safe one to buy food. The pan handlers in front of the bad stores would attack people if they didn't give them money. Stabbings where happening every day.

What makes this so bad is the bad areas are growing. Neighborhoods that where safe are not anymore, and most crime is just ignored by the police because there is too much for them to do, and nobody is punished for committing crimes. Gangs are out in the open, and everywhere. A good friend doesn't have room in her garage to park her truck, and she has had her catalytic converter cut off of her truck four times now. This in in Castro Valley, which used to be one of the safest, nicest areas in the East Bay. She has cameras that show them showing up, crawling under her truck, then leaving. The police take a report and nothing happens.

Most crime doesn't even make the news there because it's so common and there are too many things happening to cover them all. Here in East Texas, if a gas station gets robbed, they talk about it all week long. It's a big deal here!!!!

Seems like most of my friends that I grew up with have left California. I feel sorry for those that remain. For the ones with family still there, some of them have moved to Nevada and Arizona, just across the border.

I forget the details, but there was something in the news about a huge increase in the amount of tax that is paid on homes valued above a certain amount. Hollywood Celebrities seemed to be the hardest hit by this, and it's why a lot of them sold before the tax went into effect.

One friend just sold his house for $1.7 million and moved to North Carolina. That house was in a nice neighborhood in Pleasanton, on a 5,000 square foot lot with 1,500 sq ft, 3 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms and a two car garage if they where both VERY small cars. It was a nice house for that area, but where I live now in Tyler Texas, that house would be a low end starter home that would list for $200,000 and probably sit on the market for a very long time.

There is a reason that people and companies are leaving California. Before moving there, spend more time visiting there and get to know the place. There are some fantastic areas that are still safe and beautiful, but the question you always have to ask is for how long?

 

[deserteagle71]

Besides that, we we retire, my wife will want to downsize the rule is one going to be 3 rifles, 3 handguns and 3 shotguns with only 1 safe and give / sell everything else LOL

If you retire in California better sell all the handguns before you go there.....

 

[grsthegreat]

If you retire in California better sell all the handguns before you go there.....

Ya got that right.

 

[Sigarms]

If you retire in California better sell all the handguns before you go there.....

Honestly, I thought you might be exaggerating, and I figured hey, what's the issue with a good old hi power? so I looked online and kept going. Glad and sorry I did.

Trying to keep up with their "registry", it's like playing whack a mole...

Removed Handgun Models

oag.ca.gov

Can't help but think that if you have a bunch of tax stamps with the government your name is going to be on their radar if you move in right from the get go.

Ok, need to look one state east if the boy ever decides to settle down there LOL

 

[grsthegreat]

My brother used to own a gun store in central California. Sold it off after years and years of official bureaucratic bs.

not a gun friendly state.

 

[Sigarms]

not a gun friendly state.

Like I said, I use to live in NY and am familiar with Jersey as well ("anti" and some of the worst on the East Coast).

That said, last time I lived in NY was over 24 years ago, and it was anti gun even back then.

I knew California was horrible, but it's been a while since I looked up info on the states.

 

[ultrarunner]

Long gone when you could ride the bus to the airport and go duck hunting.

Even in High School the coach took care of gophers with his 22.