Determining Acceptable Value of Inherited Real Estate?

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As executor you can do as you wish.

Final decisions will depend on what you plan for future relations with the siblings.
It really does seem this is the situation regarding future relations.
 
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Ultrarunner good luck in your adventures.when my mom started having issues from dementia I made sure to be with her every lunch and after work. Later my sister moved in with her but I still stopped by for lunch and after work. I know you made the last years of your mom’s life more enjoyable. We let my sister buy house at below appraised value. For repayment for all she did for mom. I had to talk my brother into price, with do it for mom. The loss in money was worth it for happiness mom received from staying in house until end
I’m not looking for a deal or an edge…

When asked they both said timeline to liquidate and distribute.

The naive part on me is thinking ok they want to sell and I have the licensed appraisal in hand so my buying at full appraisal with no commission due would be a simple win/win… I was wrong.

The attorney suggested a checklist of sorts and just go down the line distributing but my siblings reject piecemeal saying one settlement covering everything and done…
 
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I'm going to say something, and I hope I don't step on any toes because when it comes to family and money, all bets are off.

YOU took care of your mom and her house.

I'm also guessing you aren't a "free loader" and a bum in the family.

Who the frick cares about "fair market value"?

Don't get me wrong, it's not like you're going to buy the house at a family discounted price of 50% off.

I just don't get the fact of trying to maximize the sales potential when it comes to a good family member who has contributed to the family.

I believe you don't have children if I remember correctly. Who gets the house when your time on this earth is up? Can you just leave the house to your family then at that point so then they could maximize their profit?
As it stands everything I have goes to their kids who are all in college now.

They have a point… I did go against the family wishes of putting mom in a facility and when I did they said ok… your decision to keep mom at home and it’s on you…

If I had it to do over again I would do exactly the same… and this happened before the pandemic… so double yes in view of the pandemic.

One family member is a Doctor and said let the professionals experienced in geriatric memory care take over… strange how moms own Doctor supported her remaining in her home as the best option.
 
   / Determining Acceptable Value of Inherited Real Estate? #44  
Is this a democracy? Or is it your decision? Your opinion is worth as much as theirs but if it's a democracy and they agree then you're screwed.
 
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None of my business, but if their kids don't need it, look at some causes you love, and leave some there.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but at the end of the day, if you own the home, I'm guessing the home will still go to their kids?

I could be wrong, but I'm guessing the home means more to you than just being a structure to live in.
Very much so… the place is where I grew up as opposed to a line item asset to be liquidated.

I asked if they would be interested and it was a resounding no… why would we ever mom to Oakland and no way would we let our kids live there…

It really is dollars and cents…
 
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You should have gotten your mom to change the will back when they didn't want to help take care of her. I think now you are backed in a corner. I'm thankful every day that I have the sister I do. We never crossed words over what was left and how to split it up.
Funny… she said that many times and I always said not to worry about it and of course the later years with failing memory it would have been a minefield.
 
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Maybe in their mind they think your going against their superior judgement to move her to a facility and keep her at home was a ploy for you to get sole ownership of her estate.
 
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Is this a democracy? Or is it your decision? Your opinion is worth as much as theirs but if it's a democracy and they agree then you're screwed.
Really was not expecting any discord… they were not required to do anything regarding providing care and I really thought they would even be pleased/happy given their hands off approach…
 
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Maybe in their mind they think your going against their superior judgement to move her to a facility and keep her at home was a ploy for you to get sole ownership of her estate.
Had that been the plan I did everything wrong as the home would have been sold back in 2017 when values were half and by now the money would be long gone leaving nothing to discuss.


I know a very close friend of mom where the kids sold everything putting the mom in a facility and when moms money was gone walked away making her a ward of the state… it was really bad.
 
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Much to consider. But you already knew that. 😀

Regarding upgrades for a higher selling price, I doubt that the will or trust suggested or required the siblings to launch a three-sibling joint-venture speculative real estate venture based on "Mom's property." Those are risky even with arms-length investors, but yours also involves family members and also in-laws chiming in with their opinions.

If you fix the place up and re-decorate, who decides just how far to go with rehab and expenditures, and who picks out flooring or makes decorator decisions? That is, of course, a minefield all its own.

Having one sibling "front" the $100k for rehab introduces an unequal aspect to the siblings. Suppose the one fronting the money wants special touches or finishes you believe are not appropriate to the local market? Since that person is putting up the money, are they presuming to be in control? Who manages the local contractors, which is a significant amount of time, and would (you) be reimbursed for that?

Instead of using money from one but not the others, if you instead chose to take out a loan, and hire a general contractor, does that even make sense given those added costs?

Later, when an offer comes in, does the one who fronted the money for rehab presume their decision about whether to accept carries more weight than the others? The slippery slope of "generosity" to put money up for development might have a long tail of downstream entitlement.

So this raises the question about what the will or trust spelled out. Those expressed wishes, depending on how detailed they are, could put some handcuffs on your decision(s) as executor. Or provide you with a shield of what not to do. Not sure how descriptive your Mom got?

Finally is the question of your authority as executor. Depending on what was written, that authority could have ranged from full, autocratic authority or maybe something lesser requiring consent or buy-in of others.
 

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