I’m thinking it’s finally time for a change

[5030]

Far as I'm concerned, unless you can get 0 percent financing through the manufacturer or some sweetheart deal, now is a very poor time to buy any large investment anything, houses included and vehicles because interest rates are climbing, inflation is out of control and nothing will change until after the election on November 5th, depending on who gets the Whitehouse and I'll leave it at that.

 

[PineRidge]

Do they have a MT342? That size machine is closer to your New Holland tractor size. Not sure if money is an issue or you just dont want to go that big, but something to think about.

The MT342 is 3-cylinder. My present TC40D New Holland is a 4-cylinder, hence the reason I chose the MT242HC = 4-cylinder

 

[PineRidge]

Far as I'm concerned, unless you can get 0 percent financing through the manufacturer or some sweetheart deal, now is a very poor time to buy any large investment anything, houses included and vehicles because interest rates are climbing, inflation is out of control and nothing will change until after the election on November 5th, depending on who gets the Whitehouse and I'll leave it at that.

Presently LS is offering 0% interest, pretty hard to beat

 

[D&D]

Today I had a chance to drive a 3-cylinder as well as a 4-cylinder LS MT series tractor. I was pleasantly surprised with both although the 4-cylinder was smoother and it seemed quieter. Also thought the fit and finish was as good if not much better than my original New Holland Boomer. Tomorrow I’ll set the sale in motion for a LS MT242HC which is the 42hp version, with 4-rear remotes & 3rd function plumbed to the FEL. Might as well get all the bells and whistles. Before you guys recommended LS I had no idea they even existed so thanks for the tip!

I wasn’t pleased with the LS brand 3rd function. You may want to try one before ordering.

 

[aesanders]

I put a W.R. Long 3rd function on my MT342. Works very well. That’s what my dealer does on their machines.
D&D, what was wrong with the LS 3rd function?


To the OP. Congratulations on the MT242. That is there new model, and I believe that uses a Yanmar engine.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Please double check those 4 rear remotes. My thinking is that it will have 4 couplers-(2 rear remotes. I know of no tractor under 85HP that even offers 4 sets (8 couplers) of rear remotes.
If the dealer is adding 3rd party stuff, that is one thing, but check about that many factory sets.

I doubt it though, hope that I'm wrong, that would be super cool to have 4 sets of OEM rear remotes.

Last thing, are you sure that an 1800lb lift for the 3pt is going to be enough?

 

[5030]

Presently LS is offering 0% interest, pretty hard to beat

So is Kubota and has been but I work (play) at a Kubota dealer part time and you can bank on the fact that any manufacturer that is offering 0 percent financing is rolling that finance charge into the pricing.

 

[5030]

Please double check those 4 rear remotes. My thinking is that it will have 4 couplers-(2 rear remotes. I know of no tractor under 85HP that even offers 4 sets (8 couplers) of rear remotes.
If the dealer is adding 3rd party stuff, that is one thing, but check about that many factory sets.

I doubt it though, hope that I'm wrong, that would be super cool to have 4 sets of OEM rear remotes.

Last thing, are you sure that an 1800lb lift for the 3pt is going to be enough?

I believe you are correct on that 2 sets of remotes or 4 couplers. When I bought my first M9000 in 72 I special ordered it with a dual speed PTO, creep gears and 3 sets of remotes with flow control but I had to order it that way. The used one I bought a couple years ago has 2 sets only (4 outlets) and I could stack on some more but I have no need.

I believe you are correct in your assumption. Under 85 horse, only 2 sets. really no need for more in a utility tractor anyway unless you want flow control for the top set. I rarely use all 3 sets myself.

 

[D&D]

I put a W.R. Long 3rd function on my MT342. Works very well. That’s what my dealer does on their machines.
D&D, what was wrong with the LS 3rd function?


To the OP. Congratulations on the MT242. That is there new model, and I believe that uses a Yanmar engine.

Not so much wrong, I didn’t like it. You roll the handle to the right to get the 3rd function use, then the 3rd function button has to be held down while using. Just feels clunky/awkward. Hooked up my auger which was actually uncomfortable as heck trying to hold the handle right while holding the button.
Personally, it’d be nice if the tractor and parts suppliers quit calling them 3rd function valves/kits/ Not really what they’re offering.

 

[mikester]

My experience with NH was parts were expensive with long lead times to get them in at the dealership.

TYM isn't on my radar because there isn't a dealer network or presence here. I would never consider an expensive machine without any support.

I've had good luck with parts pricing and availability on my Kubota's which is why I keep buying them. Knocking on wood even obscure parts from 30 year old attachments and 15 year old machines have been in stock or available within a business day or two and are reasonably priced. I have 3 local to me dealers (within 50km radius) to call on as well.

If this is a hobby then you are rolling the dice. If you are doing this commercially buy two TYM machines, maybe you will have one available to run when you need it...or at least have spare parts on hand.

The general rule of thumb is you get what you pay for.

 

[D&D]

My experience with NH was parts were expensive with long lead times to get them in at the dealership.

TYM isn't on my radar because there isn't a dealer network or presence here. I would never consider an expensive machine without any support.

I've had good luck with parts pricing and availability on my Kubota's which is why I keep buying them. Knocking on wood even obscure parts from 30 year old attachments and 15 year old machines have been in stock or available within a business day or two and are reasonably priced. I have 3 local to me dealers (within 50km radius) to call on as well.

If this is a hobby then you are rolling the dice. If you are doing this commercially buy two TYM machines, maybe you will have one available to run when you need it...or at least have spare parts on hand.

The general rule of thumb is you get what you pay for.

30ish years ago, Kubota was a no-name trying to get into the North American market.

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

30ish years ago, Kubota was a no-name trying to get into the North American market.

People don't remember that

 

[DieselnHooters]

30ish years ago, Kubota was a no-name trying to get into the North American market.

They showed up 50 years ago and by the mid 1980s they were wide spread , at least up here same as with japan made cars

 

[PineRidge]

Please double check those 4 rear remotes. My thinking is that it will have 4 couplers-(2 rear remotes. I know of no tractor under 85HP that even offers 4 sets (8 couplers) of rear remotes.
If the dealer is adding 3rd party stuff, that is one thing, but check about that many factory sets.

I doubt it though, hope that I'm wrong, that would be super cool to have 4 sets of OEM rear remotes.

Last thing, are you sure that an 1800lb lift for the 3pt is going to be enough?

We talked about that and in addition to the two rear remotes from LS they are installing a Summit multiplexer so that it will bring the total up to four.

 

[PineRidge]

New Holland told me the soonest I could take delivery of a new Boomer was December, LS said 2-weeks

That will give me a couple of weeks to get the original New Holland including the backhoe cleaned up and ready to sell.

 

[rScotty]

They showed up 50 years ago and by the mid 1980s they were wide spread , at least up here same as with japan made cars

In the early 80s in the Western USA, Kubota didn't have formal dealers - they were mostly to Rental Yards who would then either rent them out or sell them. I was working in a shop then. The rumor was that Kubota Corporate figured that Rental Yards were the best way to get people to know and use their tractors. It worked.

Please double check those 4 rear remotes. My thinking is that it will have 4 couplers-(2 rear remotes. I know of no tractor under 85HP that even offers 4 sets (8 couplers) of rear remotes.
If the dealer is adding 3rd party stuff, that is one thing, but check about that many factory sets.

I doubt it though, hope that I'm wrong, that would be super cool to have 4 sets of OEM rear remotes.

Any tractor can daisy-chain almost as many control valve remotes as wanted by simply connecting the output of the PB port from one and feeding it into the IN port of the next set of control valves.
The only requirement is that each control valve set has to have its own "Return to Tank" return hose line - although several of these can be "Y"d together.

The limit to the number of remotes added that wayis that each one added to the chain moves its cylinders a little slower, with less pressure and more heat to the hydraulic fluid. Eventually there isn't enough push to be useful...and the fluid has gotten hotter than the hydraulic radiator can handle.

rScotty

 

[LouNY]

We talked about that and in addition to the two rear remotes from LS they are installing a Summit multiplexer so that it will bring the total up to four.

My preference would be to series another valve into the loop. The multiplexers will get you more outlets but none of them will have float. To me float is an important function, I can use it will single action cylinders, I can use it on motor circuits , or to let a double action cylinder float.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

My preference would be to series another valve into the loop. The multiplexers will get you more outlets but none of them will have float. To me float is an important function, I can use it will single action cylinders, I can use it on motor circuits , or to let a double action cylinder float.

Controls start to be a problem for manual valves when you have a cab tractor.

A float function can be set up with an electric valve having the work ports connected together and then run to the tank. Actuate the valve, the cylinder is in float, deactivate and the std valve control works as normal. This is a relatively economical solution to achieve having the float feature on a non float featured valve.

 

[5030]

30ish years ago, Kubota was a no-name trying to get into the North American market.

Try 45 years ago, not 30. They are well established now and hold the lions share of the compact and sub compact market.

Like I've said in the past and will again, you slice the pie too many ways, everyone who got a piece won't be happy.

 

[5030]

Controls start to be a problem for manual valves when you have a cab tractor.

I disagree with that. Least in my M9 cab, with 3 sets (6 outlets) I still have a blank space for yet another set and actuator lever.