EV owners of today and tomorrow

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FSD has a ways to go.

But in almost every other way, I still find the Y in my all time favorite cars group. It is darn quick and Fast, handles better than most sports cars on the road (super responsive steering no body roll), hauls more for its size than any other, Is outstanding in snow, warms up in like 3 minutes on cold days and super efficient.

It is the best car I’ve ever owned.
 
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EV HIDDEN COSTS

1: Higher Upfront Purchase Price
I paid less for my 2013 Model S and less for my 2023 Model Y than the cars I shopped against.

2:Costs of Replacing Batteries
After 10 years my Model S's original traction battery was down to 93% of it's original capacity. What is this "cost of replacing battery(s) which you speak?"

3: Investment in Charging Infrastructure
The 2013 came with a Tesla Mobile Connector, NEMA 14-50 plug and 5-15 plug. Currently charging my Y on a 120V 15A outlet. What is this "cost of charging infrastructure of which you speak?"

4: Restricted Range
Never prevented me from going anywhere I wanted. Perhaps a dozen 500 mile days.

5: Time Cost of Charging
Charge at home, overnight, while I sleep. How much does that cost? On travel I needed a 15-30 minute biological break every 2-3 hours anyway.

6: Potential for Higher Electricity Charges
10¢/kWh is my usual home rate the past decade. Superchargers are 3-4x more than that which comes close to parity with a 25 MPG automobile. For the relatively rare 200+ mile days that is a small price to pay to be driving my automobile vs a rental.

7: Depreciation Rates
I don't know. Drove it 10 years. Got my use out of it.

8: Environmental Impacts from Battery Production
Batteries are produced under the same rules for EVs as for cellphones, laptops, and everything else. Why is is only bad if it is for an EV? The real problem is our stupid enlightened Globalist Leaders gifted exclusive rights to mine, refine, produce, certain critical components in the misbegotten belief such industry would lift 3rd worlds out of poverty. What has actually occurred is enslavement by China and the dirtiest production methods known. The solution is domestic USA production as we have the raw materials.

9: Insurance Premiums
I didn't notice.

10: Maintenance Costs
I haven't noticed.

11: Disposal Costs at the End of Life
Didn't notice that either. Had a pretty good offer for my Model S, sister chose to repair it for herself. It still had 75 kWh of good battery remaining and was the cheapest source of storage I could find for my future PV system. So that means "negative disposal cost."

12: Range Anxiety
Nope. Then again I never owned a LEAF, Fiat 500e, or BMW i3.

13: Concerns for Grid Stability
Nope.

14: Changes in government incentives
Nope. Bought mine fully expecting not to receive anything. Tesla prospered for years when all other EV makers still qualified for Federal Tax Credits, but Tesla had burned through it's allotment of 200,000.

15: Charging Accessories and Upgrades
A Tesla Wall Connector (it is not a "charger") is a killer $475. I'm putting 2 in my new garage so I can park on either side, and/or have a guest. It's so expensive!

16: Chances of Higher Registration Fees
$204/year in Alabama in lieu of gas taxes. This one is significantly higher than I would pay in gas taxes for a 15 MPG automobile.

17: Upgrade Home Infrastructure Cost
Almost nothing. Used under $100 in parts to install Wall Connector in existing home. Plus the $475 Wall Connector.

18: Specialized Repair Costs
Oooh! I need a repairman who specializes in EVs just as I need a repairman who specializes in ICE vs a plumber? Isn't a plumber a specialized repair service too?

19: Impact on the Used EV Market
So one pretends some miraculous breakthrough is going to occur turning all existing EVs into undesirable vehicles? "Journalists in 50 year old overstuffed chairs with $4000 laptops in their mother's basements" have been saying that for 15 years. How many "battery breakthroughs!" have been posted on TBN? None have come to fruition. Such geniuses kept crying about Tesla's stagnating technology because the Model S held at 265-300 mile range for such a long time. Expecting battery range to double each year.
 
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Another plug for EVs, ha ha


What’s your point with this drivel? Read the first post in this thread. If u aren’t interested in potentially purchasing or learning about EV then gtfo.
 
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Education, the more you know about what you might be interested in buying, the better choice you can make. Kinda like trying to get best value for money spent.
 
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