You Know You Are Old When

[goeduck]

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I inherited my wife's grandfather's tools. He hoarded things and could never find anything. So I ended up with about 15 hammers, about 8 hack saws, about 12 electric drills,,, you get the point. He kept adding garage bays since he had a deep city lot to keep everything in. I think the original house had 2 bays and he ended up with 8. The apple does not fall far from the tree and it doesn't skip generations. My wife and her mother both have the affliction. There is not a place for anything, so nothing needs to be in its place. The concept of putting like things with like things never occurred to them. I like organization, so now similar things are together, but there are way too many of everything. You should see our scissors drawer, 35 of them. Any attempt to reign things in ends up not going very well. I hope I go first.

 

[Jstpssng]

He hoarded things and could never find anything. So I ended up with about 15 hammers,

We are cleaning up the family homestead and have found at least that many hammers and tape measures. In my father's case it was planned though. He got tired of always running for tools so had a hammer in each greenhouse, one on each floor of the barn, another in the shed. Then one each for the house and garage.
Also one in the ATV and another in the truck... you get the picture.

 

[BravoXray]

I still have my Dual 1212 turntable, two Sanyo cassette decks, Marantz receiver, 2 BIC speakers, probably 1000 CDs and at least as many 60s and 70s era LPs. I want to rip all the LPs to MP3s, just have to set up the equipment and do it. Soon, maybe.

 

[goeduck]

lol...

I still have big speaker stacks, but they're touring / stage speakers, since I was in a band and my house was the practice studio. The big home stereo has been replaced by a cluster of WiFi streaming amplifiers wired to about 40 tiny speakers scattered throughout the house, porches, and patios.

Is there any latency between the different brands of speakers?

 

[goeduck]

And, if you're an engineer, you will design and build your own Bluetooth receivers to power the old speakers rather than just buy Bluetooth speaker sets.

I still have my old JBL L100 speakers waiting for me to do that. I never saw who took this picture back in the day .

 

[WinterDeere]

Is there any latency between the different brands of speakers?

Interesting question. It'd take 20,000 miles of wire to hear even a 0.1 second delay, so you'd never hear anything like the delays you get out of some wireless solutions, using a hardwired system. A small phase distortion at higher frequencies takes much less delay though, so let's run the quick numbers on that:

If we assume you might hear phase distortion when one speaker is 10% (i.e. 30°) out of phase with another, and we assume primary (non-harmonic) tonal content is mostly below 1 kHz (e.g. open high string on violin is 660 Hz), then a 10% phase shift would always require a phase difference between speakers of more than 1ms/10 = 0.1 ms.

Light travels at 983,571,056 ft per second, and maybe up to sqr(2) slower than that over PVC-insulated matched-impedance cabling. Let's say 700E6 ft/s.

So, a 0.1 ms delay would require 70,000 feet of wire length difference between two speakers, to even hear it at 1 kHz. Longer for lower frequencies, e.g. A = 400 Hz above middle C yields 174,000 ft of cable length difference. Harmonics might be more easily distorted, at say 7000 feet of wire, but my system is less than 5% of that length... and how many can really even identify harmonic distortion by ear?

My speakers are all on cable runs of maybe 60 to 200 feet, so no problems with delay. Our bigger issue is actually attenuation causing differences in the volume projected from different speakers on the same volume control, due to long cable lengths. Speakers are a relatively low impedance, and thus draw a lot of current from a small voltage.

That big fat Monster Cable guys use in 10 foot lengths for their stereo speakers is a totally pointless marketing gimmick at 10 feet, but big O2-free wire gauges become very useful when trying to make your speakers sitting out at 200 feet project with similar volume to those at just 40 or 60 feet. If you've ever wondered why they make high-impedance speakers (16 ohms and more), this is probably one of the reasons.

 

[mjarrels]

Interesting question. It'd take 20,000 miles of wire to hear even a 0.1 second delay, so you'd never hear anything like the delays you get out of some wireless solutions, using a hardwired system. A small phase distortion at higher frequencies takes much less delay though, so let's run the quick numbers on that:

If we assume you might hear phase distortion when one speaker is 10% (i.e. 30°) out of phase with another, and we assume primary (non-harmonic) tonal content is mostly below 1 kHz (e.g. open high string on violin is 660 Hz), then a 10% phase shift would always require a phase difference between speakers of more than 1ms/10 = 0.1 ms.

Light travels at 983,571,056 ft per second, and maybe up to sqr(2) slower than that over PVC-insulated matched-impedance cabling. Let's say 700E6 ft/s.

So, a 0.1 ms delay would require 70,000 feet of wire length difference between two speakers, to even hear it at 1 kHz. Longer for lower frequencies, e.g. A = 400 Hz above middle C yields 174,000 ft of cable length difference. Harmonics might be more easily distorted, at say 7000 feet of wire, but my system is less than 5% of that length... and how many can really even identify harmonic distortion by ear?

My speakers are all on cable runs of maybe 60 to 200 feet, so no problems with delay. Our bigger issue is actually attenuation causing differences in the volume projected from different speakers on the same volume control, due to long cable lengths. Speakers are a relatively low impedance, and thus draw a lot of current from a small voltage.

That big fat Monster Cable guys use in 10 foot lengths for their stereo speakers is a totally pointless marketing gimmick at 10 feet, but big O2-free wire gauges become very useful when trying to make your speakers sitting out at 200 feet project with similar volume to those at just 40 or 60 feet. If you've ever wondered why they make high-impedance speakers (16 ohms and more), this is probably one of the reasons.

Can't open any thing from a store.

mark

 

[scootr]

Can't open any thing from a store.

mark

You know you are old when your hands don't work. Can't open a pickle jar, a plastic package, a letter, your zipper, or an app

 

[masseyrider]

I still have my old JBL L100 speakers waiting for me to do that. I never saw who took this picture back in the day .
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I have Electro-voice concert grade speakers. 15 and 12 inch woofers. Tweeters for midrange and highs.
Built the cabinets with my High School shop teacher.
Huge things. Over 5 feet tall and 3 feet wide. Takes a hand cart to move them around. They're in the rec room which is 34 by 26. I can make your ears bleed.
For the living room I have Monitor Audio gold series speakers. 2 front mains, 2 more secondary fronts, sub-woofer and centre plus 2 rear for surround.
My receiver has a pink noise generator with a mic. that optimises the sound to where you are seated.
Let the kids try and match that sound.

 

[Eagle1]

You know you are old when your hands don't work. Can't open a pickle jar, a plastic package, a letter, your zipper, or an app

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