Marijuana on the job

[deserteagle71]

The last corporate merger all employees directed to occ med for drug testing…

I had never been tested and never drink, smoke or drugs beyond an occasional Advil…

I said I will do it once and made it clear it would be one and only…

There comes a point where if you don’t put your foot down you are left with nothing to stand on…

You would never work for a mine. Random (supposedly) testing for ALL employees. Sometimes you'd be tested 3 times a week - and then it might be a year or so before your number came up again. Refuse to take the test and you will be escorted off the property and you'll not work for that mine or any other again. No exceptions, and the policy has been upheld by the courts. There's enough accidents even with stone cold sober employees, no one wants someone high or drunk operating a piece of equipment weighing 800,000 lbs.

 

[JeepHead]

You would never work for a mine. Random (supposedly) testing for ALL employees. Sometimes you'd be tested 3 times a week - and then it might be a year or so before your number came up again. Refuse to take the test and you will be escorted off the property and you'll not work for that mine or any other again. No exceptions, and the policy has been upheld by the courts. There's enough accidents even with stone cold sober employees, no one wants someone high or drunk operating a piece of equipment weighing 800,000 lbs.

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Several years ago I use to work for one of the largest aggregate companies in the country. One of my quarries had an accident where an employee flipped one of the large off-road haul trucks and they immediately held a drug test for all employees. They lost several people that day. I think drugs have no place in your work environment and employers should have every right to test.

 

[daugen]

You would never work for a mine. Random (supposedly) testing for ALL employees. Sometimes you'd be tested 3 times a week - and then it might be a year or so before your number came up again. Refuse to take the test and you will be escorted off the property and you'll not work for that mine or any other again. No exceptions, and the policy has been upheld by the courts. There's enough accidents even with stone cold sober employees, no one wants someone high or drunk operating a piece of equipment weighing 800,000 lbs.

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those dents will pound out just fine, this tool on tv says so!
I hope he was the driver and moved over, or that is one squished person, sad.

 

[RjCorazza]

You would never work for a mine. Random (supposedly) testing for ALL employees. Sometimes you'd be tested 3 times a week - and then it might be a year or so before your number came up again. Refuse to take the test and you will be escorted off the property and you'll not work for that mine or any other again. No exceptions, and the policy has been upheld by the courts. There's enough accidents even with stone cold sober employees, no one wants someone high or drunk operating a piece of equipment weighing 800,000 lbs.

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Holy crap! That's quite the photo!
I worked on a dam construction site years ago, and one shift of miners had a party on site after their shift... The entire shift was fired.

 

[ultrarunner]

You would never work for a mine. Random (supposedly) testing for ALL employees. Sometimes you'd be tested 3 times a week - and then it might be a year or so before your number came up again. Refuse to take the test and you will be escorted off the property and you'll not work for that mine or any other again. No exceptions, and the policy has been upheld by the courts. There's enough accidents even with stone cold sober employees, no one wants someone high or drunk operating a piece of equipment weighing 800,000 lbs.

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I’m ok with that… had and still have my own property management business and a profitable hobby restoring collectible cars…

Just like when I held fast against being injected with a cocktail of vaccines when I already had all and provided documentation for same…

The behind the scenes of clinical practice is eye opening…

I insisted on a blood draw which proved all my points…

Corp medicine does what is expedient and cheap at every opportunity given the chance.

A persons individual dignity and character is where I gladly take a stand… if we part ways… it truly is their loss…

I’ve seen workers pulled off the line being impaired and one was not but having a stroke slurring his words.

Always thought why the double standard where those in suits have cocktails at lunch but having a beer at lunch for someone on floor in America was the fast lane to summary dismissal or a mandatory union sponsored medical treatment program…

In Germany the labor that builds BMW, Mercedes, etc. have in their union contract free beer during meal break… supplied by BMW et. al.

 

[ultrarunner]

Several years ago I use to work for one of the largest aggregate companies in the country. One of my quarries had an accident where an employee flipped one of the large off-road haul trucks and they immediately held a drug test for all employees. They lost several people that day. I think drugs have no place in your work environment and employers should have every right to test.

The Occupational Medical part of the hospital has dozens come in for drug testing… involved in an accident you are tested or let go… test positive you are let go even if they later have to rehire you because you had a bagel with poppy seeds.

We are not cattle… or plantation slaves…

To test the entire line because one individual screwed up is brought to you by lawyers… can’t be discriminatory when everyone is tested…

Reminds of Catholic Grade School when one student acted out the nuns were quick to pile on punishment to the entire class… the theory or peer pressure… never worked on me… call me a conscientious objector standing my ground unwilling to accept punishment for something I did not do…

 

[ultrarunner]

You would never work for a mine. Random (supposedly) testing for ALL employees. Sometimes you'd be tested 3 times a week - and then it might be a year or so before your number came up again. Refuse to take the test and you will be escorted off the property and you'll not work for that mine or any other again. No exceptions, and the policy has been upheld by the courts. There's enough accidents even with stone cold sober employees, no one wants someone high or drunk operating a piece of equipment weighing 800,000 lbs.

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If someone was impaired under them influence 25 to life would be a good start to reduce repeat offenders…

To clarify was the pickup driver impaired or was it the other guy?

Sailboats under sail have the right of way but every year sailboats get run over by tankers plying the bay waters…

 

[ultrarunner]

Several years ago I use to work for one of the largest aggregate companies in the country. One of my quarries had an accident where an employee flipped one of the large off-road haul trucks and they immediately held a drug test for all employees. They lost several people that day. I think drugs have no place in your work environment and employers should have every right to test.

I think marijuana should have no place in my rental properties… but nothing I can do about it as a landlord in California… can’t speak about other States.

I hear about zero tolerance, immediate dismissal, refusing to hire based on background check or even being against the law to run a background check for criminal activity, etc… but as a landlord the state says no mr landlord…

At a hospital disclosing a medical condition of a patient is grounds for dismissal yet change patient to employee and all the protections fall away…?

Take it a step further and require clean drug testing for Section 8 Housing…

 

[ultrarunner]

You would never work for a mine. Random (supposedly) testing for ALL employees. Sometimes you'd be tested 3 times a week - and then it might be a year or so before your number came up again. Refuse to take the test and you will be escorted off the property and you'll not work for that mine or any other again. No exceptions, and the policy has been upheld by the courts. There's enough accidents even with stone cold sober employees, no one wants someone high or drunk operating a piece of equipment weighing 800,000 lbs.

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I question why HR/Ownership would willingly put themselves in the position of tremendous liability blacklisting an employee industry wide for refusing to RANDOMLY pee in a cup with the operative word being randomly.

It makes no sense when there is no correlation of cause and the payout could be millions…

Following the mine logic how can the state prohibit me from doing a criminal background check as part of the qualifying to lease a 2.5 million dollar property?

And if I as a Landlord provide a negative reference on a current or past tenant I am open to expensive litigation and the tenant receives free government legal aid.

• Landlords cannot screen applicants for criminal history during the advertisement, application, selection, or eviction process.
  
  
• No Blanket Bans:
  Landlords cannot indicate that individuals with criminal histories will not be considered for housing.
  
  
• No Requiring Disclosure:
  Landlords cannot require applicants to disclose their criminal history.
  
  
• No Negative Actions:
  Landlords cannot refuse to rent, terminate a tenancy, or demand a higher security deposit or rent based on criminal history

 

[Looking4new]

I have already reconciled the fact I will never return to Canada, it is way to communistic for my taste!

Nor will I ever return to the U.S. of A. As much as I want to go to Alaska, I will wait until they become our 11th Province.