Ethanol Free Gas

[NoTrespassing]

So, I bought 21 gallons of non ethanol gasoline yesterday. It cost me $4.55/gallon. E15 was only $3.05. That's one hell of a premium. Non was 91 octane vs ethanol at 87 octane. They had separate hoses on every pump. 11 gallons are for small engines, 10 gallons filled the Mazda. I plan to run another tank through the Mazda after this one.

 

[mrmikey]

That's one hell of a premium.

That right there tells me they know it's worth it, you're lucky you can get it. I'm stuck with corn gas, there's none available anywhere in NS. I actually read somewhere where the Canadian goobermint made it illegal to sell it, dunno if there's any truth in it but knowing our laws it probably is.

 

[Fuddyduddy1952]

Yesterday a neighbor & I were talking about ethanol gas and carburetor damage. He showed me he puts one of these in line gas valves in every mower & small engine. Before shutting off you close valve running carburetor dry.

 

[ultrarunner]

The carb on the Farmall Cub was screwed up and no ethanol free available here…

For decades… never a problem but now cleaning is part of the Spring ritual.

 

[NoTrespassing]

I pretty much hypermile the Mazda on the same 70 mile round trip 3 days per week. The only real variable is wind.
This is the first time I've burned non-ethanol gas in the Mazda and I can already tell there's a difference. With Summer E10 I'm getting about 41 MPG. I'm curious to see what I can get with non-ethanol over the next two tanks.

 

[deserteagle71]

Yesterday a neighbor & I were talking about ethanol gas and carburetor damage. He showed me he puts one of these in line gas valves in every mower & small engine. Before shutting off you close valve running carburetor dry.View attachment 3558088

I have a Honda lawn mower and genset. Both come with shutoff valves from the factory. Owner's manual for both recommends running the carburetor dry, and it also recommends to use non-ethanol gas if possible.

 

[rontaki]

Maybe it is time for a class action lawsuit against governments that ban or make nearly impossible to buy E0 gas. Or send the responsable governmens the repair bills made neccesary due to the heavy-handed policies against E0 gas. I'm really getting fed up by their idiotic control over us.

 

[dodge man]

In my mind one problem with ethanol hype is it burns cleaner. I believe that’s true but raising the crops to make it is mostly done by diesel burning tractors and combines, plus all the pesticides, weed killers and fertilizer applied to the fields. Then the energy and pollution that the ethanol plants create. Are we really ahead with the ethanol fuel.

 

[ultrarunner]

Maybe it is time for a class action lawsuit against governments that ban or make nearly impossible to buy E0 gas. Or send the responsable governmens the repair bills made neccesary due to the heavy-handed policies against E0 gas. I'm really getting fed up by their idiotic control over us.

California paid a lot to Diesel car owners when the reformulated diesel damaged fuel system some years back.

With 2 large refineries giving notice of pending closure and Chevron relocating to Texas the state said it may have to step in to operate refineries… I wonder if the state would fine itself for deficiencies?

 

[ericm979]

In my mind one problem with ethanol hype is it burns cleaner. I believe that’s true but raising the crops to make it is mostly done by diesel burning tractors and combines, plus all the pesticides, weed killers and fertilizer applied to the fields. Then the energy and pollution that the ethanol plants create. Are we really ahead with the ethanol fuel.

I used to think we wern't but then I realized that the carbon in ethanol came from the air recently, like this year or last year. The carbon in gasoline had been safely buried for millions of years. Burning it adds to the total carbon in the air; burning ethanol made from plants just recycles carbon from the air.

The tractors etc use a fraction of the fuel that the corn they harvest supplies. Of course they could be using renewable diesel made from corn oil and also not adding to total atmospheric carbon.