L5740 - adding multiple aux hydraulics

[cstamm81]

Trying to see if there is anyone out there who has done anything similar to what I am thinking. Also, please let me know if there are any flaw in my plan.

So, I have a 5740 with 2 factory rear remotes (neither are float valves), and I added a diverter valve for the loader. I'm wanting to add more aux hydraulics, to both the front and rear. I tend to overbuild / would rather make things future proof if possible. That said, I am considering installing a 6 spool solenoid control valve. My idea is to run 2 third functions to the loader, to complement the diverter. Then, the remaining 4 spools would be used in the rear. The monoblock I am considering is: Hydraulic Monoblock Solenoid Directional Control Valve, 6 Spool, 13 GPM

The loader functions would be controlled by this control grip, 2 rocker switches for the teo 3rd functions, and 1 trigger for the diverter: Scorpion X Series control handle with up to four faceplate buttons.
The rear functions would be controlled by a larger control grip, with 8 buttons to control the 4 rear functions: Sure Grip L Series control handle with up to 8 functions

Obviously I'm looking at spending some good money, and a fairly involved install. My goal is to be able to run anything imaginable, current needs are a rear top n tilt, with a rear blade with hydraulic angle and offset. I want to lay things out ergonomically, and in a fashion that I could be proficient in controlling everything. The front controls are cut and dry, everything on the loader handle. The rear is harder for me to wrap my head around, the stock rear remotes are single levers next to the 3 point lever. The large control handle should fit in the slot for the third rear remote lever.

I had seen another member mount a single third function valve under the seat, he made a plate that mounted to the housing below the seat. Then monoblock valve is about 11" square, plus obviously a **** of a lot of hydraulic lines coming out of it. Fitting everything properly is a big concern.

Give me your thoughts please, don't be shy. I want to do this once, and do it right. If this would get better responses in the hydraulics section, please let me know. Thanks in advance.

 

[sea2summit]

I'm confused what the purpose is. With two rear remotes you can operate a 4-way blade, maybe add a third for a top link cylinder and you don't gain anything by having a top'n'tilt other than the confusion you're already talking about with lever placement.

What's the purpose of a second, third function on the loader? I'm drawing a blank on the application.

 

[LouNY]

Solenoid valves are just on or off, no fine adjustment or tweaking.
Also the selected valves are not for motor applications just cylinders.

 

[LD1]

I think you are gonna run out of room to cram all that on a small tractor and make it functional and ergonomical

And agree....whats the point?

You can get electric diverters to split the flow of one of the rear remotes off. Like this Hydraulic Multiplier Kit, SCV Splitter Diverter Valve Including Couplers and Switch Box Control.

But why so many up front? Maybe Im overlooking something But I cannot think of a front attachment for a tractor that size that needs more than one up front?

 

[MtnViewRanch]

3 diverters, 1 control valve with control grip. 4 sets of couplers that all have feathering & full capabilities of the controlling valve.

I have had customers install this same setup on their L6060s. The diverters mount well right on top of the factory valves at the rear.

I too would like to know why you think that there is any reason to have multiple control valves for a loader 3rd function. :confused3:

 

[cstamm81]

I'm confused what the purpose is. With two rear remotes you can operate a 4-way blade, maybe add a third for a top link cylinder and you don't gain anything by having a top'n'tilt other than the confusion you're already talking about with lever placement.

What's the purpose of a second, third function on the loader? I'm drawing a blank on the application.

For the loader, the purpose is to have both a true third function and a diverter, so I can feather the control with the diverter or full on / off with a third function. The purpose of multiple outlets is to be able to control more than once cylinder at a time. I like to fabricate and play with hydraulics.

For the rear, I'd like to use the two existing remotes to control top n tilt cylinders. The extra rear remotes would be to control the angle and offset of the blade. The other 2 extra would be for future use, I guarantee I won't be upset having more outlets vs fewer.

I fully admit this is overkill, and that's why I'm looking for opinions.

 

[cstamm81]

Solenoid valves are just on or off, no fine adjustment or tweaking.
Also the selected valves are not for motor applications just cylinders.

I'm aware of how the solenoids work, and for most of my intended uses, simply on or off will work fine. I can control the overall speed with restrictor orifices.
I'm under the impression that I could run hydraulic motors off of the selected valves, as long as they are rated for continuous use. I do know I would need to add the component that handles the hammer effect of closing a valve with a motor spinning, the name escapes me right now.

Thanks for saying these things though, not so long ago I would not have know these facts, I have learned a ton from TBN.

 

[cstamm81]

I think you are gonna run out of room to cram all that on a small tractor and make it functional and ergonomical

And agree....whats the point?

You can get electric diverters to split the flow of one of the rear remotes off. Like this Hydraulic Multiplier Kit, SCV Splitter Diverter Valve Including Couplers and Switch Box Control.

But why so many up front? Maybe Im overlooking something But I cannot think of a front attachment for a tractor that size that needs more than one up front?

That's probably where reality will catch up with me, having the physical space to mount the valve assembly and all those **** hydraulic lines. For that reason alone, I may be forced to use another diverter or two, and down size the valve assembly.

Why so many up front? I want to have a true third function up front to complement my diverter. I figured why not add a second true third function while I'm at it. I want to run an offset loader mounted brush mower. The mower would be powered by a stand alone hydraulic pto power pack I already own, then 1 function would control the amount of offset, and a separate function would control the angle of the mower. I also have it in my mind to control a small rotating grapple.

 

[cstamm81]

3 diverters, 1 control valve with control grip. 4 sets of couplers that all have feathering & full capabilities of the controlling valve.

I have had customers install this same setup on their L6060s. The diverters mount well right on top of the factory valves at the rear.

I too would like to know why you think that there is any reason to have multiple control valves for a loader 3rd function. :confused3:

Ah, the man that showed me that half of these things are even possible! I remember drooling over those pics of your Mahindra years back!

Going with diverters on one or both of my third function valves may be the way to go, if nothing else to have the real estate to make it happen! I'd have to see how the placement of the control handle(s) would work out on my Kubota. My 3016 Mahindra is similar to your Mahindra, and I do really like the placement of the rear remote valve control.

Why so many up front? I want to have a true third function up front to complement my diverter. I figured why not add a second true third function while I'm at it. I want to run an offset loader mounted brush mower. The mower would be powered by a stand alone hydraulic pto power pack I already own, then 1 function would control the amount of offset, and a separate function would control the angle of the mower. I also have it in my mind to control a small rotating grapple.

Are you still supplying valves and controls, your site lead me to believe you are only doing the custom TnT cylinders these days.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Ah, the man that showed me that half of these things are even possible! I remember drooling over those pics of your Mahindra years back!

Going with diverters on one or both of my third function valves may be the way to go, if nothing else to have the real estate to make it happen! I'd have to see how the placement of the control handle(s) would work out on my Kubota. My 3016 Mahindra is similar to your Mahindra, and I do really like the placement of the rear remote valve control.

Why so many up front? I want to have a true third function up front to complement my diverter. I figured why not add a second true third function while I'm at it. I want to run an offset loader mounted brush mower. The mower would be powered by a stand alone hydraulic pto power pack I already own, then 1 function would control the amount of offset, and a separate function would control the angle of the mower. I also have it in my mind to control a small rotating grapple.

Are you still supplying valves and controls, your site lead me to believe you are only doing the custom TnT cylinders these days.

Yes I am furnishing valves and mounts as well as the T&T sets.

If you go to the Fit Rite website and go to the customers share section, there is a guy with an L6060 on page 3&4 that added a pair of diverters. You can see the diverters as well as the control grip installed. I have others that have added a triple diverter set in the same way.

I normally recommend that a customer go with the 3 factory valves and then 3 diverters if-when they need 6 sets of rear remotes. Makes for a very neat & clean installation with ZERO additional hoses.

As far as the 2 front 3/4th functions, I can see with what you want to do that those would be handy. :thumbsup: