I'll see if I can find that.
Fuel issue?
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I'll see if I can find that.
davesl708
Elite Member
Not likely electrical.
With the rpm problem and the fuel gauge sticking how old is the fuel? Are you getting fresh fuel or is it from a storage tank. Could be algae growing and clogging.
Look for a second filter. My diesel has one near the fuel pump and one near the tank outlet.
Also, clean the cap vent. Could be a critter built a nest in the vent hole or other debris is plugging it.
This is the pump. Zexel.
This is a diagram of the fuel flow. The only filter I see is the main one. No screen in the tank. There is no fuel shut-off because the tank is lower than the filter and pump. I'm not at all familiar with injector pumps, so I don't know if there is an inlet screen or something on it somewhere.
This is a diagram of the fuel flow. The only filter I see is the main one. No screen in the tank. There is no fuel shut-off because the tank is lower than the filter and pump. I'm not at all familiar with injector pumps, so I don't know if there is an inlet screen or something on it somewhere.
PILOON
Super Star Member
"No screen in the tank. There is no fuel shut-off because the tank is lower than the filter and pump. I'm not at all familiar with injector pumps, so I don't know if there is an inlet screen or something on it somewhere."
tank is lower than the filter and pump,--- odd as that suggests a lift pump would be needed as gravity is not there to supply the injector pump.
That being the case priming must be a *****.
OK, so the injector might draw but all the lines need to be ABSOLUTELY tight as the slightest air leak will cause problems. Even an old rubber line might let air seep in.
Typically injector pumps can not handle air. (that is why we need to bleed all lines to prime a system)
tank is lower than the filter and pump,--- odd as that suggests a lift pump would be needed as gravity is not there to supply the injector pump.
That being the case priming must be a *****.
OK, so the injector might draw but all the lines need to be ABSOLUTELY tight as the slightest air leak will cause problems. Even an old rubber line might let air seep in.
Typically injector pumps can not handle air. (that is why we need to bleed all lines to prime a system)
Halftrack
Platinum Member
If the problem gets worse as the engine warms up, I would consider the diesel fuel is contaminated with gasoline. Before you spend a lot of money on parts, I would drain the tank and replace the fuel with clean fresh diesel from a reliable source. Drain some of the fuel into a flat pan and you should be able to smell the gasoline vapors evaporating from the diesel.
PILOON
Super Star Member
Just looked at the pix U posted.
That red line I see is not fuel line material, it is air or welding hose.
I bet fuel has deteriorated the hose to the point that it weeps or has swelled causing blockage.
Start by replacing any non standard hoses with proper fuel line material.
That red line I see is not fuel line material, it is air or welding hose.
I bet fuel has deteriorated the hose to the point that it weeps or has swelled causing blockage.
Start by replacing any non standard hoses with proper fuel line material.
I *might* have found the problem. Last night I found a schematic online for the Zexel pump. It showed a screen at the inlet line. Pulled it this morning. It was pretty well clogged: almost to the point of not being able to see light through it. I blew it out with air (hold tighter next time so I don't lose it across the barn floor!). Reinstalled it, tightened things up, purged the air, and started it up again. Way higher RPM! No surging or "missing". I'll have to go mow a field or something to see if this truly fixed it or not. Keeping my fingers crossed.
Here's a pic inside the bottom of the old fuel filter I took off. Pretty ugly.
Now, as to the red fuel line: that's how it came from the factory. I don't know. If it has deteriorated inside, maybe that's why that small screen was clogged instead of that stuff being caught by the filter? I'll get a new piece today.
Here's a pic inside the bottom of the old fuel filter I took off. Pretty ugly.
Now, as to the red fuel line: that's how it came from the factory. I don't know. If it has deteriorated inside, maybe that's why that small screen was clogged instead of that stuff being caught by the filter? I'll get a new piece today.
davesl708
Elite Member
Glad you're getting it nailed down. Looks like some water has been in the filter too. Maybe use a Mr Funnel or Racor filter to pre-filter the fuel to avoid the problem again.
I glad you found that screen and got it running. I got my 5030 in the spring of 2011. Have had no trouble but glad to know what you found.
