I have had a few 90s era 7.3 F350s. .. Those motors were reliable but woefully underpowered compared to the 6.7 today. The E4od auto trans was also a time bomb. The ride quality… whelp… it kept you engaged while driving as you had to guess which side of the road you will be tossed too after hitting a bump.. The last 97 F350 I had..I could tell you the year of the dime if I drove over one. ..Despite Dodge/Ram/Stellantis have a good diesel (Cummins) and possibly a good (Allison) trans, the rest of the vehicle components are junk as in lowest possible procurement cost versus the highest possible profit margin and I know that as factual as the outfit I retired from was the largest provider of interior component steel (axle housings, suspension components, frame steel) and a bunch of other stuff, including some engine components (not diesel related) but gas engine related and I can say with experience that they buy the cheapest materials possible, could care less about grades or quality (don't care about mill certs or origin of materials), so long as it's cheap. I remember them even buying from us, Russian steel that was very poor quality but they cold have cared less, all they were even concerned with was price. Why I'd never buy a Stellantis product as I got the see the inner workings and it wasn't pleasant top observe. In reality, Fords and GM isn't a whole lot better but they are better than Stellantis ever hoped to be.
Sadly, none of them are even close to being worth what they ask for them anyway and that includes Yota, Nissan and all the rest and why I'll never buy a new vehicle. My 97 Ford F350 4x4 diesel is just fine, has no rust and sleeps in the garage all winter so it's never seen snow and back then, they actually built REAL light duty trucks with real 8 foot beds and not the poser crap built today.
I modified mine just after I purchased it new to correct some of the issues, imagined and real. My 7.3 was modified by Fords SVO in Dearborn with a full Gale Banks upgrade kit and it will positively smoke the rear tires on demand. It was dynoed at 345 horses to the rear wheels (and the rear axle is a locking Detroit Tru-trak). They also did the transmission, which is an E4, but with high performance internals and oversized Hayden 4 pass trans cooler and a deep sump aluminum pan. I did a front axle flip myself and added an ARB air locker as well. My rear suspension is still multi leaf springs but it also has a set of Air Ride bags out back with an on board air compressor. I modified the steering box and removed the factory huck bolts and installed real grade 8 high strength fasteners and a drop pittman are as I increased the ride height 5" (which now I regret as it's a PITA to get in and out of now that I'm an old fart).I have had a few 90s era 7.3 F350s. .. Those motors were reliable but woefully underpowered compared to the 6.7 today. The E4od auto trans was also a time bomb. The ride quality… whelp… it kept you engaged while driving as you had to guess which side of the road you will be tossed too after hitting a bump.. The last 97 F350 I had..I could tell you the year of the dime if I drove over one. ..
A Nissan Maxima has almost 400 HP today.. like I said.. I have owned several 90s 7.3s.. they were good motors ..just by today's standards.. they are limp. I have a 2021 F450 6.7 limited.. that truck pulls, rides, handles, and just all arrives 100x better than any old ford or Chevy.. it's not even close.I modified mine just after I purchased it new to correct some of the issues, imagined and real. My 7.3 was modified by Fords SVO in Dearborn with a full Gale Banks upgrade kit and it will positively smoke the rear tires on demand. It was dynoed at 345 horses to the rear wheels (and the rear axle is a locking Detroit Tru-trak). They also did the transmission, which is an E4, but with high performance internals and oversized Hayden 4 pass trans cooler and a deep sump aluminum pan. I did a front axle flip myself and added an ARB air locker as well. My rear suspension is still multi leaf springs but it also has a set of Air Ride bags out back with an on board air compressor. I modified the steering box and removed the factory huck bolts and installed real grade 8 high strength fasteners and a drop pittman are as I increased the ride height 5" (which now I regret as it's a PITA to get in and out of now that I'm an old fart).
When I ordered it, I had an agreement with Ford SVO that the vehicle would be delivered to them and they would do all the mods and bill me, which they did a long time ago.
Been offered 35 grand for the truck but not for sale, Still have the original window sticker. Paid 32 new for it btw. I could quite easily put a Yota Tundra in the bed and not even squat the suspension...
Did all that many years ago, back when I was pulling down serious bucks at the job I retired from,
Today, modified or not, the OBS Ford's, especially the crew cab long bed models are in very high demand because unlike today's grocery getter wannabe trucks, the old style Fords and Chevy's were real trucks.
I have the Escalade "suburban " It's nice, I believe it's a 6.2 of some sort. It's nice to drive for sure. We have 11 vehicles in all.Mine isn't. End of story. My other issue is, when you jack up a weinie motor to output big power, how long do they last? I watch the 'I do cars' YT channel and every weinie motor he tears apart have failed because the output is excessive, so they don't last. I'm a firm believer in 'there is no replacement for displacement'. Kind of reminds me about the Ford Eco Boost in the pickup trucks that fail due to VVT issues.
When my wife bought her Suburban I told her to buy the 'High Country' edition because the standard motor is the large displacement V8. Gets the same terrible mileage as the smaller one does. First thing I did to it was I disabled the cylinder cutout feature. She don't care about fuel mileage anyway. I will say for build quality and comfort, you cannot beat a Suburban. Hers is basically a 2500 Series pickup truck with the bed enclosed. With the 3rd row seats folded down, you could sleep in the back and I like GM products anyway because GM has actually addressed maintenance, unlike Ford. When you open the hood on a Ford product (my Focus RS included), hard to fine the engine under all the crap. I can literally sit on the fender of her Burb and dangle my feet in the engine compartment. Routine service would be easy if I did it. I don't, the dealer takes care of everything required and that was included in the cost of it.
In closing, your mileage may vary but I know what my mileage is....
I agree, and with legions of us out there that want a basic truck with no frills, you would think there is a manufacturer out there that can make hay out of this and turn a profit with that type of truck....that's why I'll never buy a new vehicle 5030
smart move
wwwwwwwwwell... it would most likely get better MPG than the options-laden trucks, to be honest - a stripped down truck is lighter and none of the frills are efficiency increasing.They could make it, but regulations for MPG hold them back.