Promising news on emissions requirements?!?

[Hay Dude]

Am I the only person on earth that actually likes my DPF? I guess implementations may vary, but on my 3033r, it has been totally trouble-free. Every time I have to run an old 855 or 950, I remember how bad it was, being choked out of the shed while hooking up implements or even warming up a little on a cold morning. My God, those things stank. The 3033r exhaust smells like unicorn farts, by comparison.

Put yourself in the place of a farmer running a loader tractor with a DPF.
You’re trying to get hay made, baled or stacking in a barn.
Suddenly you have DPF problems and rain is coming.
Or a trucker trying to get a critical load delivered on time.
Or a logger trying to get a customers yard cleaned up in a timely manner and there’s a DEF/DPF problem.

I only have two very minor gripes with my DPF'd tractor, which I'll gladly accept:

1. It does run a heck of a lot hotter, to where some summer chores can feel like you're standing in front of a barbeque grill. Thankfully, 90% of my tractor usage is in cooler weather, so that doesn't really matter to me. Heck, it's a bonus in winter.

That extra heat makes life miserable on other components on the tractor. Heat kills.
I like the cleaner air, too. But the cost to many of us with DPF/DEF failures is too high.

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

I grew up on 1950s-1980s diesel ag tractors, mostly open station. Diesel exhaust is like moms peach pie... Brings back awesome memories.

After 20 years running pre emissions ag equipment, I'm not sensitive to the smell at all.

Black smoke billowing, pulling a plow through heavy soil with a fender mounted stereo pumping out 120db. Oh how I miss farming in the 80s

I can see the appeal of DPF for hobbyists, but if I am running a production operation, I want as little sensor and electronic ******** as possible. Make it mechanical.

 

[ultrarunner]

I wear a respirator mask and no diesel or dust issues…

Simple enough…

 

[ptsg]

I don't know, to me, seeing these newer engines burning so clean, makes me wonder if it really needs the DPF at all and how much pollution do these actually produce.

My 2017 Branson has a mechanical injected engine and no DPF (not required until 2021), other than a small puff of smoke during start up on cold weather, I see or smell no smoke at all. Not a single hint of it. I've even let it bog down on hills, pulling the trailer and still no smoke. Yes, I understand that a lot of the particulates are not visible to the naked eye.

It just goes to show that even this mechanical injected engine can burn clean. I can only imagine a common rail engine doing much better.

 

[rontaki]

I wear a respirator mask and no diesel or dust issues…

Simple enough…

Remember, the Bay area is a lot cooler than many other places. Wearing a respirator mask in 100 degree heat might be rather uncomfortable.

 

[ultrarunner]

Oakland is generally very mild…

Go inland through the tunnel and not unusual for 20-25 degree change… the Christmas Tree Farm is Contra Costa…

 

[Bootlegger750]

Emissions on a farm tractor is actually stupid in my opinion There should never have been any in the first place

 

[ultrarunner]

Emissions on a farm tractor is actually stupid in my opinion There should never have been any in the first place

It’s kind of that way with ag right now… existing ag tractors are allowed to till the land… no issues

However, commercial such diesel backhoes, dozers, graders, etc., dump trucks, wood chippers etc. had only one choice to stay in California and that was re-power… otherwise a one way trip permit out of state.

Utility Fleets spends millions on new and my friend that owns a crane company ended up re-powering because some of the rigs well north of 300k

 

[Bootlegger750]

It’s kind of that way with ag right now… existing ag tractors are allowed to till the land… no issues

However, commercial such diesel backhoes, dozers, graders, etc., dump trucks, wood chippers etc. had only one choice to stay in California and that was re-power… otherwise a one way trip permit out of state.

Utility Fleets spends millions on new and my friend that owns a crane company ended up re-powering because some of the rigs well north of 300k

I’m sure California has all kinds of crazy laws on emissions

 

[ultrarunner]

I’m sure California has all kinds of crazy laws on emissions

You could say California basically wrote the book on emissions with several other states adopting California’s requirements…