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My frustration comes from my inability to explain why it is allowed vs coming up eith my own rstionalixation as to why its not. It would also be different if 1 engineer thoigjt yhis all the way thru but collectively over a long time is a diffetent matter and i still find simple stuff hadnt...

I appologixe a little here. We orking is one of yhe best members here, i resd his posts, he knows more about most yhings yhan i do snd more about tractors than i evrr will.

Take a 30A dryer circuit, remove the 30A recept, put 6 50 on. Change breaker to 50, got a legal welder circuit but not legal dryer circuit. Dryer still uses the same current under either breaker but internals not designed for short circuit demands of 50

Dale makes a good distinction about the difference in types of circuits. I think the manuals and that chart above is designed for the "qualified" as they say. It kind of assumes the guy reading it will understand what it means. What it doesnt say clearly is,,,, if you use this minimum wire...

Not only csn you put 12 on a 30 you can put it on 50

They alliow 65 ft of 14 on 30 A to 6/50

I am getting at a missing link in the forum where the explanation falls short. This happens on electric forums too. There is a lot of pissing about code compliance but comes up short as to "why". There are some highly technical answers most over my head but there is and are a couple...

Do the instruction manuals list wire and breaker?

What plug comes on it?

Setting it in the sun overnight sounds like a great idea.

Good place to study this is sizing for multiple motors.

There are guys know more about this than most people do and do not need to learn any more , the someone told me school of study obviously supercedes years of study but there are others that should know a couple fundamental principles this system is based on. There is nothing wrong with upsizing...

The fact that we can plug a 16 cord in to a 20 outlet kind of explains this. Lots of hard wired equipment wired under this principle as well as the internals of the equipment. About the only place that is wired full are general outlets with the exception of welders which there is an allowance...

I got to wonder if this isnt right why they leave it in the code for over 75 years. As i mention,, this focus often actually creates a problem vs preventing it. Most of the worlds equipment is plugged in to breakers larger than the machine requires, the alarm clock etc. Same for the...

I agree about a little and that is the point i am making. There is a big hang up on the wire size at the expense of other relevent and often dangerous practices. Knowing one thing is different than knowing it well. Workingonit seems like a fine fellow but this is what i am getting at...

Aint really the size of the tractor but the load being moved. I agree, a couple 5/16 and a couple 1/4 and a steel rod and bar for poking/pulling under. Chokers are ok but for the diy type chains may be better, chokers get assholes in them and wires are sharp. Nylon not really good for this...

I did a couple the other day on somkeone tractor and simply removed the pin, cleaned and greased fix the zerk and replace.

You would be correct that voltage drop is really the issue on the user end. A short circuit or even overhrat and a 10 wire will trip a 50. The machine needs the 50 breaker but doesnt really need a 50 wire.

You would be correct that voltage drop is really the issue on the user end. A short circuit or even overhrat and a 10 wire will trip a 50. The machine needs the 50 breaker but doesnt really need a 50 wire.

Brother breaking a bead. I know they can be done on the unit but I have a crane and take them off. I can super wash, sometimes paint or fix any damage or the stem hole.

Helper filling a tire, re using the brine.

My neighbor is a master. At home fits the diy/hobby profile like a poster child and hasnt been over to weld something in 15 yrs since he got a 175.

If i was really gonna do this,, a cord works and sometimes its the only way. If i was doing this tegular would get a chunk of cable and run a new correct outlet. Depending on intended welder and some as to distance get 10/2 and 6-50- R end and 50 breaker and wire it up. If its a main panel...

Most of the machines plugging in to it have a 12 cord with the exception of 252 class wire feeders. Thats why the ready made 8 cords. When I make them I use 10. The minimums for 50A welder circuits is 12 single circuit in pipe, 10 cable or cord. Modern machines allow 14 with 30A Having...

I know some farmers shouldnt be on the hiway in anything more than a passenger car. Here they did away with truck inspections for farmers. There are enough incidents without trying, **** happens, we try to keep it to a minimum. We lost a tool on a truck the other night. Not really sure what...

I had one in today didnt have a yearly on the pins, 3 on a loader didnt take, were very dry and one on a tie rod end. This is a hobby deal and used just enough they need a yearly or better and ideally heavy equipment stuff and not marine grade whatever they fancy.

We got a lot of golden arms on the net, only certain tools fit their hands but no one picks thru my stuff to fuss over what brand it is.

As for the tools, use them. The made in China is as good as the Sears has been prior to 1980 when they figured to chase HF and Walmart to the bottom instead of trying to swipe the SK spot and catch Target. All this stuff is basically the same anymore, the Kobalt, Cman, the Klutch, same stuff...

This all works well but is cheap stuff. Why worry endlessly about a warranty on a socket with a 2$ value. People pay 2$ for a bottle of water but have a fit if they bust a 2$ tool that is basically a consumable anymore. Got to wonder, pay 3$ for gas and piss and moan and 16$ a gallon for water.

Sticky black bear shat for pins and bushings and pretty pink for stuff goes round and round.

This is about true. Big supply of 11R and common Cclamps and I never use that kind of stuff. Clamp it to the bench, square and tack.

The Hobart is very good and welds very well.,. wouldnt scare me abit and lots cheaper and while its still likely to be running 30 years from now the money you save today would replace it then.

Torch can be fairly precision and it gets better than this with a little practice.

Another pixie dust in Kroil thread.

I got to agree,,, would not be dumping home heating in my new tractor.

Buy a larger set of bottles. 125 O and 140 fuel. This will let it run larger cutting tips and some limited heating. You definitely should get a real torch, I have an anxity attack if I get farther than about 50 ft from one.

Built a bridge from crane boom.

The shuttles started small being pulled by old tractors and it was so slow and so much maintenance that we built large trailers and the local dealers donate loaner tractors to pull them. I take a spin in some on occasion when there is a driver shortage but really like to be an attendant and...

I was there yesterday for the pre meeting and the place was already packed. This might be the monster event. It was cancelled last year and looks like a lot are ready to make up for it. I think I built that shuttle trailer and I worked some on the little train. Its such an icon and has a long...

These are beautiful but I always wonder about the doors on the sides vs ibn the ends. I call them summer time plans. I like the comment about moving in and finding out that you like it well enough that a house of its own isnt such a big deal. I like living in my shop better. When I was...

I dont need it but would have bought it ar that rate. Too cheap.

Nice and light, plenty of power.

Make a fist. Knuckles should reach it or by an inch without bending over Just be able to pick up a soapstone without bending. If you are 6 ft tall about 34 inches.

I am going back with the guy said most of this doesnt require precision I rarely cut 45 with a saw and rarely then. I dont have to design every angle they ever invent and out of structural I rarely use tube unless I have to and even less at 45. That is kind of an amateur type thing fostered...

Neat to know the fitting is there. I made mine from an old tube but 12 bucks is easy.

It starts Thursday. I should have posted here earlier but forgot about it and was canceloled last year but is back on. I work in the shuttle crew.

This is the one we are doing.

This is me. I will look in to the Lowes.

I had a guy the other day tell me he knew all about welding cause he used one on auto body. Cant answer a single question about it, even the most basic like what machine or size wire let alone what gas. Another at a meeting somewhere mention he did anll this welding, I asked what electrode...

They do and I used them a lot but they are a little loose on vertical and have to use a little weave to get them to hang in there and a bit tougher to make a flat bead. It takes a bit more skill than DC. The first pic is AC, second is DC and they could be improved some with a little practice...

I am, thats my main crew. This be me.

I usually take them off outside for work and use crane on truck vs indoor especially if they are loaded. I just replaced a front on another tractor and not loaded and do not put tubes. My neighbor has a fit and insists on tubes in everything and always have flats, the cost of the tubes on...

Golf carts with a box.. I would trade 2 of those gators for 1 good running cart. Club Cars are about the best. I am kicking myself for not buying a new one every year a while back.

I had some big ones on a fert spreader. They were always low and so big they were anoying to fill. I put a gallon of slime in each one and havnt added air in 20+ years. You can work on rears on the unit but for me its so easy to take them off and I can wash/paint if I want.

I wonder if the air conditioning is similar to a 2950 I had in earlier and have a manual for?

It would be simpler and look better.

We did take it to auto parts, havnt heard back, she might have found one today.

On this forum it is easy to see what we see and Carl focused on welding coupons vs building and it was a hobby/vocation at this point but what is missed from here is he was a really smart guy. I asked him when I figured out he was so much smarter than the rest of us including an engineer or...

I got the feeling he might have been trying to recruit a bit hoping to leave some shirt tails around for grandsons etc. That would have been 15 yrs ago, the time zoomed but I would have been thinking about retirement from that a couple years or so ago. Right about the time he was coaching a...

I met Carl a couple times and if I could have pulled away for a while would have taken him up on a job setup offer intro. I never went to his place, I met him a couple of events and had dinner. We ran a couple beads at a field test. He said it would be fairly easy to float to the top as they...

Lis. I kind of think its a shame someone didnt grab you by the short hairs to the welding store way earlier. I ran across a maintenance guy recently got put out of a job by some kid with whiz tig skills. Shame is he got a pipefitter bro in law, ran him thru my booth and they guy has the talent...

I should have said green tractor, yellow paint.

I thought I had pics of the overall and will get a couple later. Rusted wheels was the main thing it came in for. Got some other things, anyone know where to score the amber light?

I never disconnect and I aint foolin with the plugs and fuses on a new car or any for that matter. People wreck cars and cause a lot of problems and even explode batteries every day fuggin with that stuff. Its extra complicated work moving lots of connections. Yake a pinch of that time and...

Saw a bench here touted as simple, had 80 pieces , hundred ft of weld to do what 13 would do with 8 or 10 ft of weld. 60 pieces added absolutely nothing to it.

That. Is kind of theoretical but inside or out here wont matter. Built out of heavy enough stock and it doesnt need gussets. They are often used where main members are lighter, adds a lot of e ta pieces and lots more weld I saw a hitch job a while back where the designer had increased the...

How strong does it have to be?

I buy filters from the local auto parts. Can buy it 1 at a time right off the shelf.

With an older one the only thing keeping a 140 from being legal on a 30A is the fact a 15A recept is current limited to 20 for other equipment. I was in a plant where the 120V was 30, had the ends and cords changed to 30 twist. 10 ga cords and Y like a spiderweb.

I forget now, was this stick or feeder? Ha. I guess what I was trying to think thru was the nature of the primary protection on a 120V circuit. Its kind of like a power strip, the little button is thermal and lotd of the machine depends on the circuit breaker for fault protection. On a...

Is this a scheme your kids rigged up?

I was going to buy a service cart, this was prototype and worked well enough that it never got replaced.

The one is locked and blocked. If I was to do it again might not bother. It was for putting furniture up. I used the headgear I was going to use for an elevator elsewhere. I was going to land it and stairway but like a lot of things the temp worked so well that it just kind of stayed.

The old engines love the new oil.

Just pics.

That would have been cool years ago. Its kind of cool now and makes it a whole level better machine. If it was a hobby and didnt care it would be ok but if I had to spend much to get this done would be hard pressed to get away from a new inverter. The buzzers are reliable and have seen some...

Farmer fixing and building is all about salvage. . I have a welding and paint shop and buy implements on occasion. Like a log splitter. If you have to buy a beam, buy every oiece, a pump, engine valve your already in to it for more than it cost before paint and welding rods. . Trailers are...

When a bolt is dry one never knows why it stopped turning, friction, pressure etc. John Deere has a tech book worth reading over this, a ;lot to consider but we spray every bolt we install, eliminated loosening and seized problems. Secondly,,, one of the m,ain reasons they went to dry,,, this...

Why would one add friction to this ttype of nut installing it dry? Only reason they ever come up with that is they cant get the chimps to properly oil the threads. Snap ON wrench book of old says,,,, all values for clean lightly lubed threads. One thing on older equipment,,, was obviously...

Save 5$to tr6y to cheapen it or make 500 putting a different label on it. I get that. . Not as much is actually made cheaper as we might think. I looked for osc saws. One for 28$ and can tell from weight feel and looks its not the same, obvious. Next one at 40 or 45 came with case and blades...

(especially if you consider the possibility of running 30+ amps through a 15 amp rated plug). Thats really not that much of a problem. Its its short circuit rating. Anything with a 15 end is limited to 20A, has a wire listed for short circuit to it. That allows it to be plugged to 50. There...

Why would it be a mistake? The welder senses the incoming voltage and limits the output amperage accordingly (its a PowerArc 200STi and IIRC it limits itself to 120A on 120V but lets you go up to 200A when you plug it into 240V). I doubt it limits itself, it probably trips the breaker...

That adapter is not legal, no way no how. My referral to a mistake might have been to something about Everlast having something not listed. I wouldnt think so but spose it could be. That adapter is a poster case for code violations and would never be listed by legitimate review.

310 is a good digger but a poor loader. There are some trades.

As far as the original topic, this is a brain fart to think a guy can order some stock for a 1 off project and compete with people do this every day. Worry about some paint and electro plate, 200$ worth of crap could be done with 5$ in paint and a sponge brush.

Look at one of the most faulty tools ever made. Cman ratchet has probably been exhanged more than any other tool in the world and I finally gave up, not worth the trip. USA, made that junk for decades. Aint no wonder HF found an easy replacement and even that guy changed models when better came...

So much of the worlds stuff comes in a white box anymore (some factory pak labeled) but a sticker put on it in the back room, different price, different warranty, kind of like the water heater. It simply cost too much to make some of it cheaper and the real money is putting a brand on it, 50X...

I am not defending it so much as saying a lot of people full of **** regarding this.

I am not really defensive about it but realistic in so.e sense. I am sure you can find a China wrench that will bend especially if a guy tries hard enough. Where my opinion differs is the wholesale opinion that it is all junk and comes from guys that include a comparison of good old USA Cman...

Yes. Mine are over my head. I have 20 ft to the rafter. The location wasn't planned and should have got it earlier. The location was worked out after I built a storage building which really let the shop layout blossom in to a really ergonomic system. This is really convenient to work from...

Looks like I get more views and response when I fog sumthin up. Who woulda thunk it.

Crap. I did this from a phone in a hurry. Was sposed to be Shop and I was going to add to it and fix shortly but stuff came up and just finishing a little lunch now.

This is another little saga but something I want deliberately doing was shoving the end of the work table under to set tools on. I need a shelf on one of the fixtures yet. I could walk under the front end without ducking but it's the same as the arms all the way up. It's kind of a natural...

The multi voltage adapter is worded kind of,, well like a gfci. Should be a ground fault assumption device really. The adapter for 240 is really a 30A circuit breaker to allow a smaller input wire to be used. 14 is sufficient for the machine but limited to 30A breaker. Got to have 12 or...

Can you show a picture of this. Has to be some kind of mistake.

My Miller Multimatic 200 uses the exact same set up. They come out of the same box and the wire off the same spool as the Hobart. The 240V models use the same cord and plug as the Stickmate came with for decades. Only ones use different is hi duty cycle units, 250+ migs like 251, now 255.

The 120 to other voltage adapters are legal, this one is not, some flea import scheme with no markings. its a 30 to 20. The only legal ones from 50 are to other 50 and from 50 to 30 travel trailer due to the fact the trailer has sufficient cord for short circuit and additional breakers. Its...

I am a little lost. First,,, good recommendations by Amazon are suspect as are any of those reviews, they are living proof the reviewers may not know anything about the machine they are reviewing, does not say,,, reviewed by experts. I forget how they internally switch the machines, I read...

Why dont I have the same problem when doing the same work?

Btw, I buy mostly off the shelf at the farm stores. I had a string of about 10 yrs where I replaced a lot of bolts, hose clamps too.

I agree we should be designing with a good margin. Bolted, welded all of it. Copy is the easy way.

Fabrication was so hard when I was a kid. The stuff it takes has become so much cheaper and easier. My bud felt like a super hero when he got a small 2 stroke recip to use in the junk yard, now all that is battery with super blades and screws used to be slotted wood things driven by hand and...

I am absolutely impressed with the 50$ Porter drill works, 2 batteries and only thing it isnt got is the charge level. There is some ultra heavy work it wont do but up to 3/8 in steel it works. Drives 3 inch deck screws and self drillers to 12's well and step bits ok to 7/8 if a guy has to. A...

I walked right by a HF portoband the other day and I should buy one. I have 2 recips on my battery system and a grinder and get by but if I had much of a job wouldnt take to much whacking off to pay for one.

I can count on one hand the China wrenches we busted, they got it by hammering or repeated impacting, broke half a dozen impact sockets but a bunch of 80's Cman chrome ones. Broke out a deep early HF set I heard they will replace, it kept me off them a while. I bought a few things when I was...

At some level with some of the products it would cost too much to make it cheaper. The semi raw materials are such a small part of the cost that it might not be worth it. Changing lines, stock takes time and money. You can sell a wrench in a white box to a flea mkt vendor for 5 gonnja sell it...

The quality of the average tool has gone beyond the ability of the average to use it. In fact generic is above a lot of the old standards, ansi stuff etc. Stuff that used to be junk isnt really even there anymore or is obvious.

Farm Journal had an article about counterfiet bolts I think. It really didnt say much, didnt incluse anything but a couple opinions it was a problem, didnt say who was selling them, nothing really. No stats, no pics of failed stuff. Just a picture of some bolt heads.

Scotty, I will agree, it doesnt tell us if the problems actually exist and on what scale. I also agree with the perspective but and or seeing it differently doesnt make any of it facts or accurate. How people feel about something doesnt make it real. No one is telling anyone that they should...

Get all red in the face if you want but I am always curious when others seem to have problems I don't have using the same basic stuff. Ones I use thousands of. Seems like we woud see a picture or 2 at least since this is such a regular occurance? Same for the broken tools and skinned knuckles...

Where did you get the bolts?

You ain't got to convince me that this is a brain fart. How much he figure to save for all the work this would involve? As for the quality, we think this is such a highly engineered project it would need qc or matter? It's really a matter of scale and the complications or logistics it would...

Slime makes good bead sealer.

I think the people that can tell the difference in most of this stuff would be a smaller number than the popular opinion for lack of better wording at the moment. Cheap China wrenches are now very good and some of the adjustable have performed as well or better than the old brand name and some...

I am not sure what baseline means to us and I never give hours. I just want the numbers, is it good or not.

Fire is a problem.

One of the reasons to use steel is so you dont have to tear off.

Measure once and write the exact amount on the machine or under the hood with marker. Seems everything takes a different oil and filter which adds an extra layer for your mechanicing pleasure.

This was a start. There were another dozen fittings added, real Suess stuff.

They rigging up schemes to "save" water.

I got a couple baskets on a loader tractor and hook up a bunch of stuff as free additional counterweight for the forklift.

Pressure washing, painting are so obvious. It absolutely changes the impact and the perception. I am a fair painter, I have a whole cab full of exotic paint, this would get hardware store paint. I got no idea who would look at something like that and give the finish level a second thought. Not...

This thing has its place but if this was much a real effort might even consider a single row tater digger. A digger is different than a harvester but it shakes the dirt out and leaves the crop on top.

I am not a restorer, cars and light trucks just get so rotted out that while there is a point to paint there is a point they are simply too worn and depreciated. You can touch them up a little. But the tractor is still service worthy and maybe 4 a long time yet.

You can see the oem, the repaints are prolly 20 years in here and still look similar. The one has a red implement on the back. Lots easier to clean up and work on and the general appearance is so much different makes it look a little more modern. Some of this I somewhat batch paint. I...

I just had ran the coarse that couldnt not have a place to paint equipment. The stuff was just old and fully depreciated and with a little care it all looked 40 years newer. I had enough I couldnt get someone to do the work, would been cost prohibitive, I tried some hired work and even couple...

I been trying to poke the OP wuith a reality stick a little here. While its great to learn all this and evne talk forum about it millions of hrs put on implements of this nature for decades with no paint on it at all and this would last a liftetime without doing anything let alone...

That would work fine if you never painted it. For DIY hobby farmer would have been done already cause I would have sprayed with a bomb I paid 2$ for at Bargain Barn 15 minutes of I was in a hurry Is the goal to make a tool or endlessly fug with it?

I am with Egon,,, I dont trust exhaust.

That is really good,,, way more better than I know. I am going with the over thinking part of this too. I sprayed around with some the other day, didnt hit anything I didnt intend to. They make so many chemicals its tough to keep up on it if not a regular user,,, I had the ester and amine...

When the rain stops maybe I walk out with a tape, have several factory pieces nearby.

I have been at this a while and seen about every way its been done and never seen this type of thing in a drip. It certainly wouldnt be "approved" or listed method for this type of application. 2 4 D has 2 flavors, one is called amine and the other I forgewt but a little less volatile. One...

I like that, was wondering about how to do it.

We think alike here, its one big smoke screen used to get people to take up sides and I really dont see anyone "defending " any rights. I really dont see the liberals as threatening.

What is it you are trying to protect from drift? With a selective like 2-4-D it might not be such a concern. Its not the same as roundup that kills everything and is super sensitive where even a little will kill a plant. Might even take quite a bit to injure neighbor plants, and they make a...

I been spraying a while but some simple concepts escape me and I had the tech stop by to get my mind wound around this due to volume. I added a bypass to be able to regulate pressure. I figured it out abs still did it wrong. Basically a positive displacement pump. Doesnt appear to have hurt.

I could be mistaken but seems Linc had a single phase model. I worked for a couple Ironwork outfits got them at sales. One guy said he got 6 or 8 for 300 a piece. They were great for factory repairs. They didnt eat much when they sat either.

Took me a while to get my mind around the rates. Limited pump.

I hate to rain on this but its not likely to work well. There are applicators, I have used somne but,,,,, its the type of chemical. If you can hit the top of the weeds without wiping the grass roundup will work but something specific which is what you really want needs to be sprayed. I...

They might be, I been doing it a decade before Google was invented I ain't saying that is all bad but should be kept in perspective. What happens is we add a level of confusion to start. The science of important but a guy never used a paint gun on an implement is another matter. Sending him...

It's the implication that despite doing g this sussefully hundred of times we not doing it right because we didnt read something someone googleclick on they didnt even read. Even the first paragraph the author explains where it might apply and it wasn't the routine painting of a farm implement.

Yes. It was meant to be, I am easily side tracked. On the technical end, on the science some of these guys know more about it than I ever will.

I am the first to admit I dont know anything. Every engineer knows more than I do. But I have a long history of doing equipment paint jobs, hundreds of them. Have also actually opened the code book on electric despite not knowing anything about electricity, pass real inspection. Only know the...

But I will call then on it when the give the look straight in the eye and try to answer in that dismissive way with something dont even make sense. We are graduating so many new educated people that are now the entitled class, cant make new car payments cause of their student debt, somehow...

Not at all, I have a lot of respect for engineers. They can do things way above my head, studded doesnt even occur to me. We do have a new class though that pretty much perfected emails, make sure there is a paper trail so they can figure out who to blame it on.

So, I will try to recover some pics. But was a snow grade or groomer. Sander, about 40 or 50 80 grit da, then some 4 inch wire wheel and finally reach with heavy pencil cup style wire Got it done and on time and budget, when I quoted it they moaned over pricing but when they got it all that...

I have bulk sand which makes it different but even with no recovery I try to clean where practical before blast.. I understand about zhit in the steel. Last job on a structural I did ended up regretting another hour with the hot wash. I lost a couple pics. I went over it with the owner, I...

There is a practical level and nothing wrong with a deeper level. There are standards and codes I suppose. As I mention in another post intent drives quality. Sanding and grinding at super and as a fabricator/painter often consider this along the way and prep the stock before converting it. I...

A good share of the worlds work is done by semi skilled people with none or minimal supervision and world would come to a standstill if it was all required to be done under strict inspection or standards. While it is interesting Rolls does that to their engine blocks we are dealing with...

Where was it written anyone takes pictures of welding needs certified?

I flip stuff around to paint and used a pressure pot so the gun would spray all position. It's really stripped which helps and my booth is big enough I can lay out a whole tractor. The pictures might be from various jobs, some this more than once. I like rigging on pallets if I can, turn in...

Something else. When a premium paint job wears or chops, say epoxy primer the top can go but the primer is still there, may be coompletlysealed it takes a long time to fail. When powder let's go it's all bare under. Trailer hitches and similar are poster cases for it. Cant really fix it like...

Guy is gonna paint an implement and we give instructions to do the space shuttle.

Before we put some black on the pump. There is a guard somewhere, and we sponge paint the pump orange again. All left over, about 3 standing disks and a pad. Paint still looks decent, 10 yrs out in the weather . No regrets about not standing around tossing 100$ bills at it.

If I am painting that it's getting some before the end of the day if I am busy. Ut if all is perfect ahi solar paint job on a common implement should outlast a scuff and dip a brush in the can job but it's a value call for the owner. You wanna be a compulsive mental masturbator or you wanna...

I ain't trying to argue that isn't true,, just that it ain't gonna mean s pinch of shot yo this guy now and maybe never. Actually most likely never.

I will agree there is a perfect ,, good better best way to go this especially if a guy has a steep budget. You can always make it better, get no argument from me with that. But this is a first time implement project, first time painter. Read the back of the can. Says clean it. Paint it...

Show us somewhere this is written?

Where do you come up with them?

I bet we put him under oath we find out he didnt even read it, was the first thing come up on Google.

Where did he explain anything? Clucking on a link about some exotic alloy is different than explaining something.. Secondly just how is this "the problem"?

Want smooth sand, prime, sand prime and paint. The sand or scuff flattens the tops off any peaks managed to poke thru it. Gives another chance to level the surface.

I am not sure why you would WANT to paint over something that could be scuffed off so easy? There is nothing wwrong with that product and in some cases it could be a big labor saver. I can see wiping it in cracks and corners, auto work mostly which it was born of I believe. Contrary to some...

Paint a lot like welding, dont need to know everything about it to do a good job, most of it is simple work, the difference between those take a couple minutes and those with fugg it attitude. Its really not that complicated and shouldnt be.

They do notice certain things and not science buit, if its the right color, if its over sprayed, dont get paint on the tires or cylinder chrome or even the cyl if its sposed to be red on a green machine, belts and hoses not to be painted. They notice sharp edges and a wire they cut themselves...

I am a super grinder and sander, got fast at it over the years and clean without thinking about it and ready to go to paint or sandblast if it is. I can sane with a common 4 1/2 and hard wheel and clean splatter, round the corners a little often so subtle its not noticeable I worked on it, 7...

Guy next town over is a good fabricator and I wouldn't have a problem paying the bill. I get some of his fab work though. My finish is better and so far they have not blinked when I charge for paint. I separate the bill and itemize some, real basic though. Having hot hi pressure wash is such a...

Egon probably knows more about it,, and paint and rust than I ever will. Here is the difference . I guess some but put myself in the OP position. He us a fine fabricator and a good welder and he OWES it to himself to paint a little. Start simple, get a few supplies and like most trades once...

Here is what I am trying to get at and it's easy to get sidetracked and my apologies to the other posters. I dont always follow my advise. But I am a career welder and have a quasi shop. I been at this a while and did a lot wrong and waste a lot of time where I wasn't paying atnn. With...

Since you are going to leave me guessing I would say engineer. Yes, absolutely true.

So whats this got to do with putting a little color on a farm implement and wtf would production car painting or some kind of alloy crap have to do with it?

Feel free to post post something relevant.

I am not dumping gunk in it.

Those are all true, they should be marked and not required to be white. But the wire in 120v is required and not a neutral.

Good point about the work hardening.

Its a common 120V circuit.

Almost seems like it's a law a guy has to use that stuff at every chance. My thought is it's ok but no need to make the guy out to be a loser if he doesn't. He can clean it and get some color on and get to use it. 5 minutes after its painted wont be able to tell.

Hard to believe its north of 40 years. When I start had to spray gun and mix everything and now I got no problem using a spray can or sponge brush. Paint outlast the car in this case, any extra would have been a waste of effort. Be different if it was a hobby or high value restoration but was...

On equipment repaint gets soap, industrial purple, hot pressure wash way before it hits the booth and cant even remember using a thinner wash and unless that done rather correct smears it around. This was 25 years old 25 years ago when I wash, scuff and shoot a heavy blast of white on it Sits...

Just needs to look good while its sold. No one wants to pay for fussy work on hot roofing kettle Sanding is what makes good paint. Old paint not a problem if its bonded and will sand smooth and blend. I see as much or more paint needs service not cause they didnt use a bunch of stuff but...

The lack of primer doesnt seem to be a big deal. I dont do it at every repaint to equipment. We dont usually repaint just for paint, mostly when it's been major serviced, reman, major repair and lots of this stuff, a brush hog is worn out if it's used well before the paint has a lot to do with...

Where? No facts posted, no common occurrences, just a post of a link totally irrelevant. Nothing to do with anything you ever did, nothing common about it, not even anyone elses example.

Yes, hi humidity makes it blush. Its been a while since I read it but believe 60% was kind of a threshold for some paint. Some list it on the can.

The fails come from simple things in this kind of work, didnt scrapa a gob off, on cars its people running their hands on them af6ter eating chips, its from not scuffing after blast where paint sticks thru. Rusts thru where a hole was repaired with bondo. I would tend to think it wouldnt need...

I know you guys answer good posts etc and I read them but on occasion this type of thing takes a spin. I be glad to look at pics of your paint shops. Here is what I know as fact. The stuff I thought was so important,, wasn't always so and I didnt always listen to the practical stuff from...

This would be different IF it did. This is just speculation. Leads me to wonder if some of you actually ever did it?

For the guy doing this job. Get some maroon Scothbrite,,, the painters best friend, scuff it off and spray some shat on it. Put the color on it. A lot of equipment doesnt even get primer, gets color sprayed on it.

What planet are you on? Is he painting an implement6 or a space satellite? The guy is doing his first simple paint job,,, this is obviously something that should be explained more clearly I guess. Too simple for some people.

I see no one jump to the white wire question. Where is it white and not neutral?

I have seen backstabs 20. Seen them in mobile homes, believe they were Cooper, saw them one other time also.

I havnt used the black but have the titty ones and cant tell the difference with them vs the brand ones. I have heavy duty drills, abused them and then some. Cant tell they are not new.

A lot of industrial primer is rated for tightly adhered rust.

I wonder how it is all my stuff isnt rusting thru? What makes it rust?

I quit using it, cant tell any difference.

He should something easy, something he can do and do with the tools he has cept for a bit.

It probably is good. I just dont use it, dont use any prep except mechanical.