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They redesigned it with an H pattern and it's really nice. I heard the older ones were sort of difficult

The 4820 range shift is super buttery

Even a broken clock is right twice a day

All I heard last year was how we were going to have a record breaking cold and snowy winter. The experts. Trust the experts. 😷

They are both solid units. I drove both, and ended up with the 4820 obviously. The 494 does have a larger foot print, quite a bit longer actually. The 4820 is noticeably more compact

Mine have never been that tight… or I never noticed it. I’m in cruise control most of the time anyway 😁

It’s officially been a year!

Don't many tachs hook up to the alternator? I'd look around there for issues and fuses

Fake. It's green. Could never happen

Certainly a few weeks ahead here in central IN. Bees are busy with maple pollen. If this keeps up, we will have an early swarm season like we did last year. It came a full 4 weeks early in this county. 😬

I'd agree, having the website up as if it's business as normal, is terrible. Daily there are more people being exposed to whatever the hell is going on over there.

Sounds like horses? My 40x60 was just under $100k with a concrete floor, insulation and electrical...

But what did it cost to generate that bill? Last I was approached, they wanted almost $30k... In ten years... That $30k, is actually $60k. So, to break even, Id need to save $6000 per year, over a 10 year period. That is the math problem I have with it, as I don't spend that on...

$2.93 here... And that's a little high

Here are my R4s

I also have 11 honey frames in one of those tubs to feed back this spring. Those were frozen, before storing.

Yes, we freeze for 48 hours min, then store in plastic tubs in the barn over winter. Works like a charm. Never had wax moth infest them. The stuff on the stand was a little ring of waterproof grease to dissuade ants from crawling up on a couple colonies then they were weak

The gabled roofs on these hives are nice, but if the wind is just right, I've had them lift, open, and flip the hives. So, I'm retrofitting all of them with a latch. Especially since I'm starting to keep bees miles away.

That is incredible. At those rates, charging an EV at home, is the same as $3/gal gas. This is why solar and geothermal were not fiscally viable here. I can see the government regulating the hell out of certain industries to make the "alternatives" more viable in the eyes of the consumer

Bellarus? 🤣

Our home is ALL electric... And even in the depth of winter, we hit $180/mo between the house and shop.

Our bodies are amazing. Science!

Same displacement, both turbo. Maybe fueling and ECM

I have the 4820H with R4s

Pay cash. And since you said it won't flood there, no need for flood insurance. Right?

The dealer cannot get it with R1s? Odd

Getting into the shop today to finish repairs on a couple hives. I've got (5) empties ready to deploy. Seven swarm traps to hang, two 14 frame starter hives ready to go, and 35 more extra deep frames to assemble.

High bypass turbofans are much more fuel efficient than engines of the past. Hell, now we have recently begun using geared turbofans to spin the N1 even faster at the same N2 rotation speed. They are extremely high bypass fans. Also, there is development of hybrid and electric commercial...

Also reading a new book on queen rearing. I have a couple standout colonies that I have had for years and years who have never been fed or treated and they fill the hive consistently. I'd love to make some queens with their DNA.

Reviewing some splitting methods prior to season starting

Yes, pay per job, not hourly. Imagine having someone bid to frame a house, says it will take him 6 months, so he bids it to be a half years income for him... VS bidding the job, which is really a couple weeks of work for a regular crew.

And I think you are right. If it takes you 4+ hours, you should be paid $200 for it. I'm just saying most people won't pay $200 for 1/8 acre to be tilled. The job being done is worth maybe $50-$100... The fact it takes you longer with your equipment doesn't make the job worth more, even...

Thinking of getting one of mine out today... Probably the FZ09

1/8 acre is 4x what you say took you one hour on your driveway build. If you billed $200/hr... So $800 to till 1/8 acre? I've been quoted $800 for two passes on ONE ACRE on virgin ground. I could till 1/8 acre, 4x in about an hour. $200 an hour would be fine at that pace of work. Not at...

So, about 1500sq ft took an hour? No sod? Sod will make it much more difficult if it’s there. For comparison, I can turn over 1200 sq feet in 3 minutes per pass in clay. Charging by the hour with a small machine, would have to be VERY reasonable… because another guy could turn it in 15...

Amen. Virgin ground with 14 hp will be tough

True. Certain states, fall in lock step with one another. It happened during COVID, it’s happened on immigration, and it happens with election law. Seems the Colorado ballot issue is going to end in defeat for Colorado, and the like, and a win for good ol 45

One hour min at $200 seems steep for most small gardens. Heck, it may be a couple passes and 15 minutes of work. I’d probably look into the minimum being a stopping fee, to load, travel unload etc… and that minimum also cover say the first 30 minutes. Then have an hourly fee above that. This...

I’ve bought from True Leaf in the past and had great experiences. I got an email the other day talking about how they have finally been able to REDUCE prices for the first time since the plandemic madness

I suppose I could have it surveyed at any point. I could sign the waiver, build, and if I felt it worthwhile later, have it revised.

I've always slit seeded my lawn. It's two acres, but thats doable. You can rent 3pt drills. It took a couple years to get a nice solid stand, but it's worth the time. This was a really poor hay field when we built a few years ago. Seeded twice. A little fertilizer. Pre emergent in the...

Do you have economy PTO? Mine does, which actually allows me to throttle down a bit, use less HP and fuel and still run at 540 PTO rpm

There are so many ailments that affect different sectors of the population differently that it's REALLY hard to think they KNOW the number of deaths from particulates. And then to attribute them to certain people based on income and race? Excess deaths are up since 2020... Life Insurance...

I don't dislike clean air. However people die by the hundreds of thousands from the crap they allow in our food. We are fat, out of shape, and comfortable. I say, make everyone suffer the DPF. Why not? Under 26hp should be included. Join the party. They make pollution sound racist, so...

I'm going with a simple 2 strand braided electric fence to keep the deer out. It doesn't need to physically stop them, but psychologically. We have dozens of deer that walk right up to the house. So we will see how we fare.

Yes, the largest

Well, the bees always store enough for themselves. The beekeeper takes too much for himself. The bees have enough for three winters, until the beekeeper shows up. I do provide a couple acres of forage, but I could still starve my bees. I just make sure to leave 35 pounds per hive for the...

I don't think local forage has a part to play…. It’s a pretty average agricultural, rural, Indiana town. I will say we do not use package bees or nucs… we only use swarms or bees from cutouts we perform. I do attribute some of their success to the hive design, because it allows them to...

Most places ship prior to the CC dispute term expiring though. In my experience

Gotta say. We never feed. We never treat for varroa. We have never lost a hive from these reasons. I have family who treat and feed, and thier colony death rates are nuts. To each their own, but they told me my apiary would be decimated if I didn’t. So far, they have lost bees every year...

Bee venom therapy is a thing. Congrats!

Exactly. Problem is, they never stop campaigning

That’s a pretty narrow study. They sent an email inquiry about a tractor in thier inventory, and saw who responded better? That is usually the least of a tractor owners concerns.

Sad to see such a fall, if true. They did make great implements. Even if the wait times were long. People waited for a quality product. Both things can be true. They had talented people building good products. Leadership may have been lacking. The employees and customers are the victims. Sad

Must haves for me... Vented jacket with fencing veil. Leather beekeeping gloves. Smoker (fuel comes from nature) Hive tool (frames are glued in with propolis) Brush (handy for many things, not just brushing bees off frames) That's it. For harvesting Uncapping tool (not the knife) Frame...

We cannot afford to relieve debt... https://thehill.com/homenews/4447860-powell-the-us-is-on-an-unsustainable-fiscal-path/

Posts will show in your own time zone 🤣. Not his.

I bought a new 27hp commercial motor last year for a trail mower, for $1500.

I don’t think the MT352 has a mid pto

This can happen. Your immune system is a weird thing. I had been having bad shoulder pain for months, got stung on the shoulder blade during a cutout… been pain free ever since. Still, I like to limit my exposure to stings.

Pollen coming in February 4th in Indiana!

Bees bringing in pollen today in Indiana.

I actually don’t mind the cold and snow on my face. Too much comfort weakens one’s soul.

Same. I work on a flight deck all week in dress clothes and a very sterile environment. I love being outdoors and in the elements when I can. I feel alive. Sweating. Snow in my face. Doesn't matter. Comfort makes me feel dead inside.

Back on topic. Anyone have a price? Seems like a lot of press last fall, and now crickets.

500 hours? That's not common on a Kioti. Most people are 20-50 hours between

It's all about choices and desires. In the end, the borrower should be responsible for their own bad choices. I have no degree, but push near $300k. I got lucky that I had a passion for a lucrative trade and spent 20 years in it. The degree I was pursuing before I dropped out, probably...

More layoffs. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/google-amazon-duolingo-kick-off-120000720.html

I now know of a two people personally who have been laid off. UPS is laying off 12,000. GDP also includes government spending, right? So isn’t that a little wishy washy? Seems it would be. I have a stable job, so the economy must be fine 😂

Statistics and "research" are common propaganda used to support ones agenda. When the media is in your pocket, it's easy to pass off lies. Just go back to 2020-2022.

I take the governments estimated death statistics with a pound of salt. Too many recent events have proven that their testing, studies and reporting are too tightly tied to political agenda quite honestly. Did those people die FROM diesel particulates, or WITH them? 😂 DPF is “safe and...

My wife takes a picture of her holding it, or near it, posts it on FB and anything can sell. 😂. She sells our honey, custom bee hives, whatever….

I am planning staggered planting yes.

I was told I overpaid for 8 acres at $6k per acre. I like to make the land pay for itself, even if only over time. Currently looking for acreage in the Bluegrass region of KY, which is quite expensive… even so, $35k per acre is a no go. That land will never pay, until it’s sold years later...

We know a family that takes pre orders for their produce. This way, they can harvest and sell at the peak. They simply offer up x amount of produce at said price and post a harvest date. Anything not sold via presale, is sold at the farmers market on the weekend. It also lets people know...

We have robins

I can view 2016 Model S Teslas that say they have NEW batteries and under 100k miles. 🤔

We are growing this year, and it seems some of the newest hybrids claim sugar rentention up to WEEKS after picking. Not interested in waiting weeks to sell, but it is nice to know the customer will have a few days to consume it and still have a better product than they are buying at Walmart. Im...

You mean DPF. Yes, a 25hp unit won’t have it. You are just much more limited in HP and weight at that point

I'm sure they are maintenance free 🤣

Still waiting on the dealer?

I think the lawsuit was based on parts made overseas, perhaps China, labeled Made in USA. Not where they were assembled, or that all parts were made overseas. Simply based on Chinese parts being labeled made in USA.

Cover crop, if you don't want chemicals. The problem is the seed bank in the soil. Cover crops like buckwheat will choke out weeds and not allow them to mature... Effectively depleating the seed bank. This takes time however since some seeds can remain viable for years. I grew two successive...

By US workers though... 🤣

Yeah, RK sells none of the legacy Branson models. So none of the 15/20 series tractors.

They say... Well they were made by "approved suppliers"...from where? And "we stand behind the parts as genuine Kubota". Sure, but from where? South Korea? India? Vietnam? I love how they answer a question, that was never THE question. Where is your approved supplier located? My parts...

Truth. When I fly to Mexico... The industrial parks are full of facilities making products from US companies 🤣

Sorry, didn't see that 🙏

So they can claim foreign brands, made in South Korea, are inferior.

The TYM units will offer a less complicated tier 4 engine, and much better after sale service. I think RK specs a Yanmar engine, but it's common rail, not mechanical injection. I'd prefer the mechanical. That is what led me to TYM

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/26/ftc-fines-kubota-2-million-in-largest-ever-made-in-the-usa-penalty.html

I mean, I'm including property tax. Which in these parts for 10 acres, a home and 40x60 pole barn, runs under $2k per year. Granted we are shopping for 25-30 acres to build a new mini farm on... But that will be a cash purchase too, or we wont do it

Depends. Are you debt free? What's your lifestyle like? I mean, I can live on $30k/yr easily. 4% of $1m is $40k. That would account for inflation. I'd likely never touch the principle. Hell if you were collecting SS, you'd be buying Cuban cigars on the regular

After the horror stories I've read about RK support, Id never buy a tractor from them. The TYM version will also have a different engine, the Kukje diesel, Rural King doesn't spec that motor as far as I know. The 3515 also has metal fenders and hood. You will likely see faster cycle times on...

You borrow it, you pay for it. If you don't, it's the same as stealing. You made a legal agreement.

8 hours of this, 12 hours start to finish. Typical day.

Ive found numerous S series Teslas that are under 10 years old being advertised with NEW batteries. So, it must happen...

I feel like every year I hear the forecast is for unseasonable cold and lots of snow. Every year, that isn’t true. I suppose if you keep forecasting the same thing over and over, eventually you will be right 😂

If I had a piece of advice, I wouldn’t buy anything if overtime would impact my decision. May not be a popular decision… but taking on a payment that is long term, when non guarantee income affects the decision to do so, is probably something to avoid. I could have bought a tractor to do the...

Elites never really feel the pain that common people do. They are just too obtuse to realize it. I'd consider myself elite in terms of income and net worth. But I know just because I doubled my pay in the last two years, most people aren't living the same life.

I use Tomcat, bromethalin. Very effective

I have hundreds of hours doing loader work with one of those. We used to run the silage blower with it, and the header would glow cherry red after dark.

If the lights aren’t off after two hours, they aren’t going off. Regen doesn’t take that long.

I’ve read that Bobcat had some design changes, the units were not identical. Again, not unlike Rural King and TYM, where Rural King does not use the Kukje diesel.

I love Echo saws… I think they currently make the lightest saw on the market. I’m finding my electric (battery) saw is just too heavy to enjoy. Gas saws are lighter, faster and more powerful. Better in every metric. My Echo CA-400 is perfect for me

I’ve seen some pretty poor reviews on the Bobcat version of the Kioti, and some selling really cheap used…. If it’s a Kioti, just buy the Kioti.

Let's teach people to be less responsible by forgiving their debts. Because less responsibility is always better.

Yup, it’s just a Kioti that Bobcat may change a couple items on, like Rural King and TYM. Rural King actually specs a different engine

Well, it will either be covered or not. I hope he hears back soon.

Probably referring to places like CA where a minor needs to ALLOW their parents in the room with a doctor and give them permission to have access to their medical records. This is linked to the desire of the state to be able to transition children without silly parents getting in the way of...

Looking the powertrain warranty limitations… seems anything external to the block, axles or transmission case is not covered. That said, LS could do him a solid and cover it. If it is EGR, wouldn’t that be emissions? What is the emissions warranty? I could honestly see it go either way...

Some units, if you bypass the regen too many times, it will require dealer intervention to enter regen. This is because the ECM will only allow the engine to run at de rated power, limp mode. Regen could have been bypassed, or if this unit uses an injector in the DPF to burn off soot, that...

I'm wondering if it's not at auction because there is a DPF or ECM issue and the previous owner wasn't going to mess with it.

It doesn't use DEF. The other symbol with the thermometer shows it should be in Regen. That is a high RPM and high temp burn to clean the DPF filter. If it isn't burning it clean, there is an issue with the DPF that needs to be addressed

Diesel generator at the site 😂

Same models

Our local Mahindra dealer has gotten another shipment. They didn't sell much of what they had on the lot last year, they just added another 5 units it appears. Interested to see what the next two months brings as winter breaks

Yes, but one manufacturer doesn’t have the engine and DPF tied to the ECM. If the TYM DPF goes into fault, the computer won’t limp the engine. You could take the whole DPF off, and it won’t limp the engine. On any other tier 4 DPF engine, the ECM will make the tractor unusable until the DPF...

If it won’t finish a regen, it may have the issues listed in that link above. Seems not uncommon

This may be worth a read https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/threads/mf-1739e-dpf-eco-issues.420014/page-5

High soot load in DPF, and the tractor is in regen. What’s the tractor run like?

Love to see the work you do with the new Summit. Welcome

Wife said if I can't pay, I can't play... 🤣

Still no pricing

Three I'm responsible for

I can pay my portion today. Sure hope the rest of the people that vote for these idiots can.

That is now the 3620

I also use ANR… it’s so quiet. When I was a kid I did hours of tillage with an open station Farmall 826 with the big box radio set to max in front of me. I don’t want to know how many DB that was…. But back then I loved it

Are the lights and speakers standard? Truly I cant listen to speakers over the sound of the tractor at PTO rpm

Hell my ROPS non ballasted 4820 is 5800lbs with the tiller on the back. I use the tiller a lot, and it's very compact weight added to the rear

I had a neighbor who drove a $50k truck, didn't need to. Was always buying crap. His three car garage was filled with things he would just buy and store. No room for his cars. Kids had to get loans... Choices.

The amount most spend on new cars during their childs lifetime, would pay for a lot of secondary education. It's just not really a priority for most parents. New cars and vacations are though

They all have DPF. They are all hobbled by an ECM, except TYM.

Same as everyone else. All ECM controlled

Yes

I miss the little mirror to see under the plane to verify if the gear is down 🤣

It's a physical switch. Before proximity sensors, we had them on the landing gear on the aircraft. In the cold we wouldnt get gear down or up indications. Poor design for cold and outdoor use. Proximity sensors don't have this mechanical weakness.

Looking at these tractor weights... My ZTR weighs 1340 pounds. Almost as much as these tractors which we are asking to carry loaders and implements. 😬

I’m balking at $800 for a set of tires. I don’t think I could stomach twice that. Rebuilding my rear drums for $100 this week. Had a rear cylinder leaking and it wreaked havoc on the drum internals and shoes. So Im going above and rebuilding both sides and flushing the brake fluid for the...

It's a large garden tractor...

That is great news.

Because that is what the salesman has told them. And it must be true. DPF has been around for what, less than 10 years? And people make claims based on what? Experience? Statistics? We have less than 10 years of real data 🤣. Just like "safe and effective". There is no real data, just a...

Kioti has a better dealer presence here

Active investors rarely outperform an index fund. You can... But most people just chase returns and suffer from FOMO

Out of reach for the common man. And most of us don't do simple orchard or row crop with small units. Automation for a compact tractor seems almost entirely useless.

Yeah, in a few years… pre tier 4 will not be an option. A non ECM tier 4 will take its place as the most reliable power plant. And there is only one. LS can keep their EGRs and sensors and limp mode. If you have fuel and a glow plug, the Branson will run.

I don’t do loader work at this point, if I began pulling a furrow plow, yeah I may ballast it. I don’t think people realize how heavy these things are.

I don’t buy, to sell... And the selling point of a Kukje diesel, is the same selling point for a pre tier 4 tractor. I plan to run this tractor as long as I’m physically able, so resale is not an issue. It’s not an investment, it’s just a tool. And seeing as though it’s the ONLY non ECM tier...

No. I also don’t have ballasted tires, which would provide more weight. It is a stock, no ballast unit and I don’t have traction issues. Someday I’ll probably fill the rear tires, but at this time I don’t see the need. I’ve also never needed to use the FWD.

Is it always in dry storage? It could be as simple as the gauge is inop. Could be a sending unit in the tank, or the actual gauge.

Without a DPF, there are no issues to be had. The DPF stores up all your issues, then unloads them on you all at once 🤣

They are still less than a tier 4... I've been shopping 45-55hp tractors regularly for two years and never seen a pre tier 4 selling for more than the NEW model... ever. I'm happy to be corrected, I've just never seen that. Hell he could buy a mechanical injected tier 4 and still have a pre...

Kioti we're all faded and had a lot of surface rust on the lots. Rear transmission and axle carriers seemed less robust. You know how you can mount a tractor and drive it and it just feels solid? I didn't get that from the Kioti. I came close to buying an NX until I saw they had a known...

I can tell you, they don't. They don't see them as the same brand. The LS engine and electronics complexities are what turned me away

I think the issue with the repair in question is that they are not using a stock part. They aren't replacing it with something it was not delivered with. I hear your concern though, none of us want down time. When I need to till and plant, I have a window of time. Not 6 months

To be fair I've heard of TWO instances of the front axle issue. Only on the 494 as I recall. None on the beloved 474

Both are really fully optioned tractors. The /20 models have a smaller footprint and all of the weight of the 494/574. The /20s are the heaviest built units in their class considering their size. The /20 hydros also have a 4 range transmission in lieu of the 3 range on the 494/574. They are...

Sounds like a stuck switch. The cold will do that

This is the main reason I went with TYM. None of this ******** on the motor. That's hard to swallow, $15k...? I'd find it hard to justify that and not just buy a nice pre tier 4

They scaled that back years ago, well before the interest rate increase

Mowing, for certain a ZTR. I use a 72” on two acres. It would take 2x as long and damage the lawn to use a tractor of this size

That is a consideration. People seem to be very guarded about the cost of the battery in these units. I can look at the cost of an engine at any time. CNH still will not publish an MSRP for the tractor they are currently selling that is electric. Why? Everything is shrouded in secrecy

Yes, per TYM the 4820 is wider (more stable) than the 474. The 494 is even larger, with basically the same weight as the 4820. Every part on the 4820 is built heavier, in a smaller package, than the 494. Ive driven all three, but was surprised at how much more compact the 4820 is compared to...

Well, the wife will pay the bills while I carve out a hobby that provides fun money. Already educating myself on business, deductions, depreciation etc…. Tired of flying airplanes all week and never sleeping in my own bed.

Not a business. I will be starting a business in the coming 12-24 months, which will then allow me to use 179 to depreciate my new equipment moving forward.

Over time, my tractor will pay for itself. It is a durable good, and if cared for, will never be worth $0. If my use outpaces depreciation, Im ahead. The longer I own it, the better my financial situation will be. Last year alone I spent about 10 hours tilling fields that are used for honey...

The 474 seems to have a great following and very happy users. The 4820 is similar in footprint, but with more weight and higher capacities. The 4820 is a chunky little tractor, probably the heaviest in its class when you consider its footprint. It is 14” smaller in length than the 494, but it...

The rear axle housing is about 50-75% less bulky. There is a lot of material in the /20 series rear end.

They don’t come with remotes… that’s all that is missing really. They have a nicer transmission with a 4 range hydro that shifts like butter. They have auto throttle, economy PTO etc. They are fully optioned, but the remotes are extra. The /20 series units are a smaller footprint than the 494...

I really just use the inverter for powering essentials like freezers, chargers and basic cooking appliances. In the winter it will allow me to also run a couple fans to circulate heat from my 80k btu propane heater in a pinch. It's really just there to make life liveable. Our new property...

Yeah, looking at the heft of the rear on the /20 models is a stark contrast to the 494 and 474. It is built much differently

Hard to power a house with a little inverter…. Sorry they had issues… I’ve not read of this or seen it myself. I’ll post if I do

My little Predator 3500 inverter is a champ at a fraction of the price

I live a few miles from a guy that builds “diagnostic mufflers” for these 😎

Sounds about 2,000 psi low

On an ECM controlled tractor… it would now be in limp mode and perform no work. You are lucky.

Actually had a pitch trim run away in one of our aircraft due to a similar issue. A fastener in the control column rubbed away the insulation on a wire and shorted the pitch trim switch. The Branson legacy models have a different ignition location, so this shouldn’t be an issue on the /20...

I’m saying they are right. The issue is, and it’s all over this forum, information is “invalid” if it does not align with one’s own beliefs.

The difference in weight of the units is less than 1000lb

I mean, I doubt resale is any better on a smaller unit. Some people want a smaller unit, some see the value in capacities and weight. I bought a 4820 and not a 4815 because I see the value in weight, stability, larger operator platform and capacity. So, in my case, the 4815’s smaller size was...

Of course, becuase if one’s limited experience doesn’t align with this information, then the information is wrong, not ones limited experience. It’s a prideful way to go through life. Also, a hard one. I watch my kids go down this path often enough. I gave them the truth, learned through...

And if Messicks admits it, it must be real, because Kubota is the holy grail. Of course, evidence is only valid evidence if it matches with your already preconceived notion.

PTO switch being bad... Uncommon, but probably an easy and logical place to look. The gear shift lever. Maybe there is a design issue. He is blessed to have a dealer that would send him parts to do a warranty repair on his own. That's not common, for this reason, HE INSTALLED THE LEVER...

Kubota trash 🤣

The fan belt was loose? Sounds like normal maintenance to me, at 30 hours. I am glad he prefaced it by saying, IM A FIRST TIME TRACTOR OWER.

Ita happening on more than just Branson... I think that's where the caution comes in

Ok, then many just don't care. $30k is a lot of money to me, so having it well kept, was very important

I’d get the 494. The larger frame will give more weight and better stability. The operator platform is really spacious too. Not sure how to answer the finish mower question. To mow what? The lawn? A tractor this size would be a poor choice for lawn mowing. If I’m maintaining less finished...

So, a 30% discount. Good for you and good for the buyer

I'd go Yanmar. You won't regret it.

When looking at used units a year ago… it was sad to see the degradation of units that were only a couple years old, that clearly sat out. They looked like they had a decade of use. Which was in large part why we spent a little extra, to buy new. I’d have saved money if I had been able to...

You convinced me, parking equipment outdoors is the same as dry indoor storage.

Arguably, you cannot compare the weather tightness of a cabbed truck to an open station tractor. Nothing on the truck is really exposed. Most tractors have fairly open engine compartments, and operator stations. Wires, hoses, sensors are all quite exposed to elements. My cars have lived...

Of the three, I’d go with the Yanmar. I would have liked to, but they have poor dealer support in these parts. I went the TYM route to avoid the complexity of an ECM controlled engine and fault codes I can’t read without a dealer tool. They are the only ones selling a modern tractor without...

I don’t hear of many mice eating through wiring harnesses on tractors stored in a well constructed barn. Gauges aren’t fogged over/failing. Rust isn’t an issue. Corrosion in electrical connections, safety switches, grounds. Weather checked tires. Water in fuel. I would have loved for my...

Mechanically, sure... Even old reliable tractors suffer from electrical issues and gauge failures. Difference was, they didn't RELY on electrical sensors and wiring to RUN. These new more fragile units, do. Of course they should run well in all conditions... But storing them day and night in...

I do think how the tractor is stored and cared for goes a long way. Moisture and weather wreak havoc on all things mechanical AND electrical, and these units become more digital daily.

Yah, it doesn’t leak

This thing is a spoiled brat. I made it very clear to the Mrs that any tractor purchase, would come on the heels of actually building storage to maintain it. I fear 60mph winds here would do terrible things to a non permanent structure.

It does make you wonder why other engines have so much unnecessary complexity built in. Complexity equates to failure points. If you can do all of this in a Kukje diesel without the added complexity and expense, then why add it at all? Our Farmall 826 still runs. It has had a hard life as...