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Please do give us some honest owner feedback(hard to find on the Bad Boys). When you say "store manager'...did you happen to buy it at a Tractor Supply Co. store??? I looked at the Bad Boy Outlaw last fall at a Bad Boy dealer and then stopped at a TSC and looked at the ZT model. Night and day...

BLUEBONNETT2, I can't argue with user sox3 and I would recommend that you look at the Gravely ZT HD or Toro Titan MX series of high-end Residential units or the Gravely Pro-Turn or Toro Zmaster 2000 series entry-level Commercial units.

So, your profile has a Hustler FasTrak 52.......do you not have that ZTR(much better machine than either the JD or Bad Boy)???? But to answer your question, based upon my limited knowledge, I looked at Bad Boys last fall when I was shopping for my first ZTR. I "definitely" passed on the John...

While prepping my new Gravely for the season this past weekend I read through the Owner's Manual thoroughly. While reading the section regarding "Leveling The Mower Deck" I discovered some information that was new to me(as is a lot about mowing:0) In the section for checking the blade level and...

Just saw my very first Bad Boy TV advertisement last night on CBS during the late 10:00PM news(after the March Madness basketball that ran over). My wife had the remote for the DirecTV DVR and she fast-forwarded through it and got mad when I asked her to back it up:0) She's still suffering a...

spook1, You may get lucky.....or Kohler may have fixed the design flaw(s). If you search this forum and the sister Lawn Mower Forum(or even Google Kohler Courage) I think you'll find an overwhelming amount of information that would make the Bad Boy purchase a deal breaker due to the engine. Like...

spook1, I looked at the Bad Boy Outlaw last fall and was quite impressed with the build. However, I also looked at the base ZT model(in 2012) at TSC and was not quite as impressed(they may have improved on the base ZT for the 2013 ZT Elite model). Looking at the Bad Boy website, it doesn't...

Cajunpride, Can't give you any user experience, but will say that I made a Bad Boy dealer an offer last fall on a 54" Outlaw with the 30hp Briggs Commercial engine. The only things that were "negative" on that mower was I preferred Kawasaki engines over Briggs and the fact that the 5gauge deck...

robbyr, Yeah, I feel your pain. I pursued the purchase of my first ZTR this past fall and there are SO MANY good ones out there that you have to decide whether you want a "residential", a high-end residential with some "commercial components" or a truly "commercial" ZTR based upon your...

Wow, sounds like you(actually the dealer) was lucky that ZTR didn't throw a belt or worse the first time you used it!! Your dealer may need to fine tune his customer prep. One thing I noticed on my Gravely when I picked it up was that there were little "yellow X's"(kind of like a crayon marks)...

That's a fine looking machine and from all I've heard about Dixie Choppers I think you will be well pleased with it. Yeah, I went from a Craftsman(made by Husqvarna) 54" lawn tractor to the 52" Gravely ZTR and my ZTR is actually a little tighter fit in my garage space than the lawn tractor was...

NevadaMOGuy, Well have you pulled the trigger yet on a new ZTR? Have you looked at the Toros(the Titan MX is a very nice residential ZTR and you can get in the entry level Z-Master commercial(2000 series) for $5K-$6K? The Gravely I bought is comparable to the Toro Z-Master 3000 series. Let us...

The Hustlers are very good ZTR's, but you may want to ask the dealer when you look at them about the recent recall due to a fire hazard. Here's a link to another forum that has that recall information...

Best thing to do is go to each dealer carrying the brands you are interested in and look at them in person(and get the dealer to give you a brochure to take home). Some dealers will even let you demo the mower you are interested in purchasing, but a first-hand look will tell you a lot. For the...

NevadaMOGuy, When I looked at the Gravely website, it showed 10 dealers in Missouri(only one had a website with online pricing available). See link below to see if any of the dealers are close to you(just enter Missouri in the "Enter A Different Location" if it doesn't come up with your state...

If I were looking at these ZTR's(I recently purchased my first ZTR and did look at the Bad Boys), I would rate them: 1)Dixie Chopper(has the Kawasaki & ZT3400). 2)Grasshopper 3)Bad Boy ZT I was looking for an entry level commercial ZTR and was impressed with the build of the Bad Boy Outlaw, but...

I just purchased a Gravely Pro-Turn 152 XDZ mower with a commercial Kawasaki FX691V 22hp engine. I have always had Briggs & Stratton mower engines and used the SAE30 B & S oil with very good results(never had any oil leaks or consumption). A buddy of mine with a six year old Gravley 260 with the...

Kohler Pro versus Briggs & Stratton Pro Commericial Engines If you had to choose between a 30hp Kohler Command 725cc V-Twin engine rated at 47 ft. lbs. of torque at 2600 rpm versus a Briggs & Stratton Commercial Cyclonic 810cc 90 Degree V-Twin engine rated at 42 ft. lbs. of torque at 2400 rpm...

I am getting ready to pull the string on my first Zero Turn Radius mower purchase. I have been "Googling" for reviews of some that I have been looking at and have read several posts on this forum as well as lawnservice.com and other forums. The forum member knowledge of ZTR's on this forum stood...