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  1. slhilbert

    MF 135 Perkins Gas 3 Cylinder Backfiring no Power

    A guy saw my thread and reached out to me and I was able to get it used from him. Which was awesome!
  2. slhilbert

    MF 135 Perkins Gas 3 Cylinder Backfiring no Power

    Well, it took about 22 hours of work and I might have put things on and taken them off more than three times, but she is all back together and working. Pushed some snow on Saturday even! Thanks to all of you for all the help! I couldn't have done it with you all. Stuart
  3. slhilbert

    MF 135 Perkins Gas 3 Cylinder Backfiring no Power

    I went out and put my hands on stuff and I am starting to get it. I looked through my parts and I believe I am missing one part and working on getting the shaft, I don't think I ever have it and it could be why this whole issues happened in the first place. In the picture below I am missing...
  4. slhilbert

    MF 135 Perkins Gas 3 Cylinder Backfiring no Power

    I think I have figured it out. I can move the flywheel with a screw driver and old it in place. I can turn the pully at the front of the engine to move the pistons and using a gauge or contraption in this video I can determine if I am coming up on the compression stroke to find TDC (Top Dead...
  5. slhilbert

    MF 135 Perkins Gas 3 Cylinder Backfiring no Power

    I do have the timing cover off. This picture was from last week. I have cleaned things up a bit. I do know where the timing window is on the flywheel, so I am assuming I set that to 12 degrees? Just not sure how I do the compression part... or how I would set the compression and 12 degree on...
  6. slhilbert

    MF 135 Perkins Gas 3 Cylinder Backfiring no Power

    I have a good lead on the distributor shaft, so I am starting to think about getting this thing put back together. I am reading through the shop manual you all provided. mf135_mf150_mf165_shop_service : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive On page 16 of the online reader or...
  7. slhilbert

    MF 135 Perkins Gas 3 Cylinder Backfiring no Power

    I have talked to them, they don't have it. If you can google it and find it, I have talked to them at this point. I have been sending emails out to salvage places and tractor shops across the country. Stuart
  8. slhilbert

    MF 135 Perkins Gas 3 Cylinder Backfiring no Power

    I can see the ebay listing. That isn't the part I am looking for though. I am looking for the shaft that goes through the governor gear. Part #737055M1
  9. slhilbert

    MF 135 Perkins Gas 3 Cylinder Backfiring no Power

    I have looked into this option, but not finding a lot of options on this front either. Do you have source you recommend?
  10. slhilbert

    MF 135 Perkins Gas 3 Cylinder Backfiring no Power

    Sent them a message. Fingers crossed!
  11. slhilbert

    MF 135 Perkins Gas 3 Cylinder Backfiring no Power

    The shaft that comes directly off the distributor broke, I am pretty sure that caused the issue.
  12. slhilbert

    MF 135 Perkins Gas 3 Cylinder Backfiring no Power

    I have had zero luck so far in finding the part. I spent an entire day reaching out to various shops, but I just reached out to shops you have mentioned, so thank you! Hopefully one of them have come through. Stuart
  13. slhilbert

    MF 135 Perkins Gas 3 Cylinder Backfiring no Power

    Thanks so much for all the help since my last update. Certainly used the scans and info to get the distributor shaft out. QUITE THE ADVENTURE for me personally. The shaft is now out. I don't see any other damage in the timing gears. Now I just need to find a replacement for the distributor...
  14. slhilbert

    MF 135 Perkins Gas 3 Cylinder Backfiring no Power

    I had some time today and I almost have the front cover off the engine. I got a bit gun shy and since I have to take my son to a meeting to get his Eagle Scout project approved I decided to call it a day. Looking for a bit of advice if I need to remove the pully off the front and if so, how...
  15. slhilbert

    MF 135 Perkins Gas 3 Cylinder Backfiring no Power

    I am starting to be of the same mind. Hoping to get this thing running again and sell it and pick something else us that has common parts on it.
  16. slhilbert

    MF 135 Perkins Gas 3 Cylinder Backfiring no Power

    Yikes... that is beyond what I want to bite off right now... but... time will tell... I often bite off more than I want. I appreciate you spending so much time looking for it.
  17. slhilbert

    MF 135 Perkins Gas 3 Cylinder Backfiring no Power

    I appreciate everyone's help thus far. I am at a Boy Scout campout this weekend so trying to minimize the phone. I am hoping to have a chance to dig into things Sunday afternoon when we get back.
  18. slhilbert

    MF 135 Perkins Gas 3 Cylinder Backfiring no Power

    That is an interesting point to make. At this point I have spent about $500 so far on parts... so a distributor less ignition system might be worth it. Are you finding viable options you can share? Thanks!
  19. slhilbert

    MF 135 Perkins Gas 3 Cylinder Backfiring no Power

    I heard back from my local tractor shop that they don't have the part, and can't find it through their usual sources, so they are pursuing it in the salvage market. YIKES! I have thought about taking it to a local machine shop and see if they could fabricate it for me.
  20. slhilbert

    MF 135 Perkins Gas 3 Cylinder Backfiring no Power

    I appreciate it. There is a Adobe PDF Scan app for phones that works really well to scan documents with your phone. Stuart
  21. slhilbert

    MF 135 Perkins Gas 3 Cylinder Backfiring no Power

    I am finding that all of these parts are really hard to find and super expensive. I have a bunch of emails out to shops to see if they have them and how much. I thought maybe if I pursued parts for just the Ag3.152 Perkins engine maybe I could find more and they would be more available, but that...
  22. slhilbert

    MF 135 Perkins Gas 3 Cylinder Backfiring no Power

    I was just looking at it and what you are saying rings true. The shaft is for sure stuck inside there. Can you point me to the manual where I can get it, because I agree with you. Moving forward I am going to need it. I still don't feel like I understand the reason for the failure, which is key...
  23. slhilbert

    MF 135 Perkins Gas 3 Cylinder Backfiring no Power

    Interesting... it is backwards from the way it is attached to the engine. Thanks!
  24. slhilbert

    MF 135 Perkins Gas 3 Cylinder Backfiring no Power

    Thanks everyone for the feedback and suggestions. I dug in further and have found the worm gear that the distributor interfaces with is also chewed up. I don't know what the part or what the purpose of the housing is that the distributor interfaces with. I have been looking around and can't seem...
  25. slhilbert

    MF 135 Perkins Gas 3 Cylinder Backfiring no Power

    I don't know what the "Blue Streak part numbers" mean... Please enlighten me! Thanks! Stuart
  26. slhilbert

    MF 135 Perkins Gas 3 Cylinder Backfiring no Power

    Thank you so much for the link to the parts... The diagrams alone on there worth their weight in gold. The Perkins 3 Cyl. Gas isn't so common from what I have found so being able to see all the diagrams is amazing! I was able to find a new/old stock distributor on eBay for $125 so it has been...
  27. slhilbert

    MF 135 Perkins Gas 3 Cylinder Backfiring no Power

    I found the part on Ebay and paid $125 for it, so way cheaper than the one linked thankfully. Not a lot of options online for it. Right now all the wholes are covered as I wait for the parts. I will see what it takes to dig into the engine more... I did read that the distributor gear needs to be...
  28. slhilbert

    MF 135 Perkins Gas 3 Cylinder Backfiring no Power

    I think me pulling the distributor cap must have been the straw that broke the camels back. I pulled the distributor and you can clearly see that the gear is all chewed up. I am assuming the distributor goes into the crankshaft, do I need to worry about the gears in there? Thanks! Stuart
  29. slhilbert

    MF 135 Perkins Gas 3 Cylinder Backfiring no Power

    Since the last post, I have completely disassembled the carb and cleaned it. Drained and replaced the fuel. Replaced the sediment bowl and put new fuel line and filter on. That got me enough juice to get the tractor very slowly and with a lot of finesse into the garage. The tractor was starting...
  30. slhilbert

    MF 135 Perkins Gas 3 Cylinder Backfiring no Power

    Air box is clean and actually off right now, so that isn't it.
  31. slhilbert

    MF 135 Perkins Gas 3 Cylinder Backfiring no Power

    I hadn't started my MF 135 Perkins Gas 3 Cylinder for several months. A few weeks ago I started it up and it was backfiring really bad, popping all over the place. I was able to rev the engine at that time, so I revved it up and after a few minutes the pops and backfires stopped and I was able...
  32. slhilbert

    MF 135 - Throttle Issues, Backfires, Power Issue, Dying

    I have been fighting issues with my 3 Cylinder Perkins Gas M-135 for a few years now. I finally broke down and bought a new carb for it a year ago and it has helped. However, I am still having a few issues that I would like smarter people than me to help figure out. When throttling up, it...
  33. slhilbert

    MF 135 Lights Not Working

    My lights were working, but in trying to wire in some 12 volt LED flood lights I have managed to get them to not work. I believe I burned up my voltage regulator, but I am looking for some confirmation about that from you guys. Before I started I had two working headlights and some gauges were...
  34. slhilbert

    MF 135 Gas From Tank to Carb Issues

    I got it working! We have had so much rain that I haven't been out on it. The clouds broke yesterday for a few hours so I hopped on and tried to do what I could in the field. Fuel started to become a problem and I remembered what one of you said regarding the sediment bowl being on too tight...
  35. slhilbert

    MF 135 Gas From Tank to Carb Issues

    My MF 135 seems to be having trouble getting the gas from the tank into the carb. This has me completely puzzled and I have no idea why I am only getting a very slow trickle of gas out of the tank to the carb. Here are the things I have tried. Replaced Fuel Line Removed Inline Fuel Filter...
  36. slhilbert

    Carb Issues

    I am in the process of putting my tractor back together after replacing the clutch. One of the last issues I am facing is that the Carb is "Butterflying". I use to have a solenoid that went into the bottom of the carb and would shut it off the fuel to the carb when you turned it off, that...
  37. slhilbert

    Wiring Issues

    I recently replaced my clutch and I am in the process of putting everything back together. The wiring is killing me. The dealer copied off the wiring for my MF 135, 3 Cylinder Perkins, Gas. I followed the diagram to the letter except for two things. 1.) The Fuel Shut Off Solenoid that...
  38. slhilbert

    MF 135 - Two Stage Clutch... More like a NO STAGE CLUTCH

    I took off the access panel last night and what I found was some sort of shaft broken laying on the panel. I had my wife step on the clutch and the plate is moving when the clutch is pressed but doesn't seem to travel near far enough into it. It certainly never compresses. I need to look at...
  39. slhilbert

    MF 135 - Two Stage Clutch... More like a NO STAGE CLUTCH

    Howdy from a Hoosier! I am a proud owner of a Massey Ferguson 135, built in 1972. As of this weekend I am having some major clutch issues and am looking for some guidance. Background, last summer I couldn't get the PTO to kick on with the second stage of the clutch, no matter how much I...
  40. slhilbert

    MF 135 PTO Clutch Issue

    I put my rotary cutter on this week to cut down some fields and I am having a terrible time getting the PTO to engage. All I get is grinding when I try to engage it, but if I force it really hard I can get it going. The reverse PTO doesn't work at all. No grinding, nothing. Didn't have an...
  41. slhilbert

    Comparison  Difference between MF-135 and MF-150?

    I have a MF-135, which I really like. The only thing I think I want on it that I don't have is a loader. Someone local is selling an MF-150 with a loader. I looked into the differences between an MF-135 and MF-150 and from what I can tell there isn't much. I suspect that the MF-150 is a...
  42. slhilbert

    Oil & Fuel  Hydraulic Leak? MF-135

    You guys were so helpful with my last issue that I have come back looking to tap into more of your knowledge. I have a decent leak coming from what I believe to be the hydraulic mechanism. When the PTO is engaged, especially when the External pump is on, I can see fluid coming out. Attached...
  43. slhilbert

    Oil & Fuel  MF 135 Tractor Dies on Throttle. Need Help!

    I have a MF 135. I am having an issue where the tractor starts and runs fine for a minute or two and then it just idles down until it dies. If I back off the throttle then it will continue to idle and sort of sputter. However, if I try to give it any throttle at all it dies. If I then...
  44. slhilbert

    135 gas, runs till hot then stops

    I went ahead and took some pictures of the heat shield in case you need to add one on yourself. You can see mine is being held on with bailing wire. Stuart
  45. slhilbert

    MF 135 Hydraulic Leak?

    I have an MF 135 Gas, 1972 that I purchased this Spring. I don't notice the hydraulics having an issue when bush hogging or using the grader blade. However, when I park the tractor if I have the equipment up, then when I come back it will be down. I don't see any visible leaks that would...
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