Oil & Fuel 0% Sulfur in diesel

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Richardb

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Yesterdays local newspaper reported that the EPA is planning on cutting the sulfur out of diesel fuel incrementally till it is at 0% in 2007. What does this mean to us who own older Kubota diesel tractors? Why is the sulfur important? Are there additives that do the same job? Are newer engines specifically designed for low sulfur?
 
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Richardb, I watched that story on the NBC national news last night and wondered myself. And we're getting into a topic that I know next to nothing about, but it's my understanding that the sulfur is a lubricant, so I would expect that some additive would do the job instead, but don't really know. My 1999 B2710 manual specifies a "maximum" sulfur content of .50%, but says nothing about a "minimum". Does that mean 0% is OK? I guess we'll have some time to find out anyway.

Bird
 
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I have not seen this story yet, but I will be curios to see the impact on prices. The cost of purifying diesel further is likely to be significant and I'm not sure that current production methods are capable. Of course we will all end up footing the bill.

I am fairly certain that the lubricating properties of the sulfur will be replaced by another, less harmful /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif, additive.

Mike.
 
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I can tell you this much about the topic of cleaner diesel. Back in about 1995, California went to a very low polluting low sulphur (no sulphur?)formula of diesel. At first the only thing we noticed about it was the extra cost of the fuel, which, by the way, is $1.49/gal.as I write. (not the red fuel) It wasn't long before the trucking companys had engine failures, or should I say, injection pump failures. Apparently, the lessened lubricating quality in the fuel was compromising the O rings that were already on their last legs. For about a year, stories continued croping up about this problem, and its associated costs. I havent read about these failure story now for years. Stanadyne makes an additive for all diesels that corrects the problem with the "new California diesel" by restoring the lubricating qualities. It does other things as well, it become a hot item to have when this new fuel hit. To me, here in CA, the diesels I see on the road today run so much cleaner, but not necessarily as a result of the fuel, but rather from improved combustion techniques. Fords PowerStroke is computer controlled, adjusting fuel amounts for altitude, temperature, RPM, etc. Cummins I believe, in addition to adding 2 more valves per cylinder, increased pump pressures to better atomize the fuel. The big trucks as well as the light trucks like Ford and Dodge, have decreased emissions demonstrably. I no longer see the soot pouring out of diesels like I once saw. Buses in this state are converting to LPG in the cities. In the end, I believe the biggest thing this new diesel will do is cost you more. Isn't that nice! Rat...

JimBin, I noticed in the KUBOTA brochure that it is the first diesel engine manufactuer to meet the CARB (California Air Resources Board) requirements. Where do the New Holland compacts stand on this, oh, thats right, they don't make their engines, never mind.
 
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Ouch.....That was a shot and a half...
 
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Um, it wasn't you who poked fun at me, for making jokes at Jim's expense, was it? /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Mark
 
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Since Kubota was made to meet the CARB (and I know what state wrote them) standards, does that mean they will run reliably on zero sulphur fuel?
 
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Not sure, but I bet they burn cleaner than your '74 International! /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

JimBinMI
 
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Jim, my International 454D with "Lightening Shift Transmission", part of the mammoth Case/International, New Holland family, makers of the #1 French Blue tractors etc. etc., owned by the parent company FIAT of Italy, burns so inefficiently, that by merely directing the exhaust at the weeds they give up and go to seed right then and there. It saves on the RoundUp, but is hard on the fuel bill. Rat...
 
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Not to worry about the new fuel. I wait for Mark to tell us about a new Amsoil product to take care of our diesel woes. :)

Actually I did buy an Amsoil diesel fuel supplement a few months back.

And what's this? Fiat owns Long....err....I mean New Holland? And this is a good thing? My brother had a Fiat years ago. Thus the term "Fix It Again Tony".
 

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