04 duramax diesel trouble

   / 04 duramax diesel trouble #11  
crbr said:
I am on my second Duramax. Fuel injectors are indeed a problem, ....... When the injector / fuel system fails, it dumps on you..... you'll know it too. I have had three sets replaced in the 2002 model that I currently have.
I knew I had these pics somewhere....

First hand look at an injector failure...... If anyone tells you anything different about an injector symptom, they're either fibbing or they haven't been there....

(click on the thumbs)

 
   / 04 duramax diesel trouble #12  
your still under your powertrain warranty so take it in. The most you sould get charged is 100.00 for your diesel deductable. there are so many things this could be its hard to guess ove the net. if its running fine and not smoking dont imediatly think you have bad injectors.
when is the last time you changed your fuel filter? air filter? did the truck derate and go into "limp home mode"? or did the light just come on while driving after the truck was up to temp?
unlike some internet durimax kings i work on them almost everyday and have since 01. ive had that engine scattered and put back together done 1000's of injectors so get the code and let me know if you want my 2 cents.

04 is a good year, has the new style injector for that engine (lb7) and do not see to much of them.

happy truckin
 
   / 04 duramax diesel trouble #13  
workinallthetime said:
your still under your powertrain warranty so take it in. The most you sould get charged is 100.00 for your diesel deductable. there are so many things this could be its hard to guess ove the net. if its running fine and not smoking dont imediatly think you have bad injectors.
when is the last time you changed your fuel filter? air filter? did the truck derate and go into "limp home mode"? or did the light just come on while driving after the truck was up to temp?
unlike some internet durimax kings i work on them almost everyday and have since 01. ive had that engine scattered and put back together done 1000's of injectors so get the code and let me know if you want my 2 cents.

04 is a good year, has the new style injector for that engine (lb7) and do not see to much of them.

happy truckin

what would the best years for the Duramax be, just for future knowledge? im debating on buying a diesel in the future and will probably buy used since new is so expensive. kinda wanted to know what years to seriously consider as far as the Duramax engine goes.
 
   / 04 duramax diesel trouble #14  
workinallthetime said:
your still under your powertrain warranty so take it in. The most you sould get charged is 100.00 for your diesel deductable. there are so many things this could be its hard to guess ove the net. if its running fine and not smoking dont imediatly think you have bad injectors.
when is the last time you changed your fuel filter? air filter? did the truck derate and go into "limp home mode"? or did the light just come on while driving after the truck was up to temp?
unlike some internet durimax kings i work on them almost everyday and have since 01. ive had that engine scattered and put back together done 1000's of injectors so get the code and let me know if you want my 2 cents.

04 is a good year, has the new style injector for that engine (lb7) and do not see to much of them.

happy truckin
This was done back in 2003 when I had bought the machine new in 2002. It was running fine at the time of discovery but within the course of 10 - 15 miles, I knew it was off. I travel more miles in a week than do most in 3 months. Trust me, I know all there is to know about this issue (other than being the mechanic as yourself, in which I am totally ignorant), the TSB, and the GM extended warranty. I wish we had a good mechanic here. The hicks where I live and even in nearby Knoxville, TN are about as trustworthy and experienced as nothing at all. It's not an option here. Most all of these folks are gasser and shadetree mechanics.

I finally found a mechanic in Bloomington, Illinois on my third failure (as I travel all over the US to work). It failed at 36K, 54K, and again at 68K.

I'm not sure what one would not understand about diesel dumping like this...(in the pic).. LOL... I mean, what else would you think? It was failed injectors that further cause this result. And with that said, I need not have to tell you that this strips all of the cheap-@$$ coating from the entire underbody. Ask them to replace it? That is another joke on me to think GM would do that.....

These are pics of the last time the system went down. No light came on, no smoking guns, not whistles..... I knew the truck was not performing at peak, when I looked at the oil pressure gauge and it was down significantly, thus the engine was not making pressure. The tranny did go into limp mode. There was no need for a temperature light to come on. It wasn't overheating.

One thing GM under-estimated about this not so fine engine is that I drive a truck like I stole it. I don't abuse one as such but I do expect it to perform, just as my always reliable Honda Accord. I have used this truck beyond its capacity, leaving me still with a desire for a 500 HP Cat diesel and the T2000 series tranny. Poor old GM. They don't get it. No GM stock in my portfolio.

At that third time the dealer decided that they would enact upon good faith as was directed by GM and replace all 8 injectors along with cleaning the entire fuel carriage. I replace the fuel filter as required by service intervals, but it's a crying shame that this product will not hold up to the price tag.

At that time I had it repaired, and brought it back to TN as I continued to travel in the Honda while working in other states. It has sat mostly in the garage with less than 20K miles on the new iinjector rebuild, but I do use it weekly. From that last rebuild, there was a remaining oil leak. It got worse, and now I am in the process of finding a mechanic to fix it. It's not an engine leak, so I suspect a seal near the converter or the block. I'll get it up on a rack next week. I talked to a mechanic a few weeks back and he said the problem now is the availability of the injectors.

Please don't take this as a GM bashing post. It's not. I call it like I see it.

Have you ever seen a mechanic let the air out of $800 set of Michelins, crushing the sidewalls for days (as they kept my truck hostage for 3 weeks waiting on parts), in order to get his big @$$ into the engine compartment?





Mostly, I'd like to thank you for the time and consideration of this problem. I appreciate your thoughtfulness. I will keep this truck a few more years then trade into a new one again. Or not. :D Maybe look into the 08s. I like to trade on even year models. It's an obsessive compulsion of mine, among many others... LOL...

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   / 04 duramax diesel trouble #15  
RollingsFarms said:
what would the best years for the Duramax be, just for future knowledge? im debating on buying a diesel in the future and will probably buy used since new is so expensive. kinda wanted to know what years to seriously consider as far as the Duramax engine goes.
This issue seems to have reduced significantly after the 03-1/2 year models. I think the 04s on up (as stated in a post) are OK. The 01s (of which I also had) and the 02s are doomed from the assembly line.
 
   / 04 duramax diesel trouble #16  
01-03 injector problems but real solid units LB7 engine
04- i like the 04 Lb7 engine, they got most of the bugs out of the injectors by then and its easy to work on, does not have all the emission stuff on it and there are a million companies making upgrade stuff for the engine. we dont see alot of them in the shop like the other years.
05-06 LLY engine these were the first ones i started replacing engines which had a major failure for no expected reason. those were all in 5500 series but still has me thinking because thats is the same engine as the light duty. plus you get into emision control stuff which makes them a pain to work on. there was also a major problem with the wire harness to the injectors. easy fix but still a pain, i have only repalced a handful of injectors on that motor and everything else has just been little quick fixes or fluke things.
06-07 lbz motor have not had any problems yet as far as repete things go. solid unit high price tag and great warranty if you buy a 07.

in short if i was buying one i would buy a new 07 or a used 04
keep your fuel clean, and change your fuel filter every 15k
 
   / 04 duramax diesel trouble #17  
workinallthetime said:
.....in short if i was buying one i would buy a new 07 or a used 04
keep your fuel clean, and change your fuel filter every 15k
Fuel filters are indeed the key. The pressuirzed rail system in a diesel is like a sandblaster, literally...

Thanks again Working... take a little time to smell the flowers... ;)
 
   / 04 duramax diesel trouble #18  
i guess i should have looked farther up i didnt see the post with your truck in the shop until now.
finding a guy who knows how to work on a dmax is real hard, im not tootin my horn but i am one of the best around here just by my experience. i worked on 6.5's cause no one else wanted to then was a shoe in for the d-max.
if the oil leak apear after the last injector job then id say he screwed up the lower rocker gasket, seen it many times.
if its not the lower rocker cover then it might be the oil filter adaptor housing leaking, seen that alot also.
gm just started this policy where all injecotrs have to be ordered apon aproval by the tech assist guys. but it takes only 1-3 days to get em. problem is the guy has to prove your truck needs em. if the guy is not so bright it will take him hours to do the test. me 15 minutes,lol
ive seen the tire thing, ive done it once on a truck that had like a 6-8 inch lift and 44's on it. i have a stand i built just for working on pick ups.
i could tell you a dozen stories where i got involved with another mechaics scewups due to lack of training or klnowledge.
best one in short.
i get a basket case- towed from another shop both heads in cab along with a box of parts.
customer told engine is junk heads are warped and cylinders scored
original complaint was losing coolant and white smoke
i check the heads and block flat and still has hash marks in the bore from the factory and this baby has 168,000 miles
put it back together and drop in a new set of injectors
im putting coolant in it and it starts leaking out of a pin hole in a 19.00 heater hose.
so customer paid the first shop 21 hours @ 98.00 to tear it down
paid me 30 hours @ 98.00 an hour to put a basket case back together
gm paid for the injecotors and customer paid for a 19.00 hose
truck needed injectors and a hose.
yes i charged alot but everything was in a box,dirty and mixed up.
the other shop would of been into him for a 6k engine plus labor
thats what happens when the guy you trust doesnt know what he is doing.
truck ran great, no smoke and smooth idle.

dont hesitate to ask me anything about your truck or your repairs
if you get it up on a rack take a pic and send it to me ill give my impression of whats leaking
you got a good truck by a great company yes it has some issues but it sounds like nothing that cant be fixed by a guy who knows what he is doing.

hope this helps
 
   / 04 duramax diesel trouble #19  
in that pic he has the inlet to the turdblow off, what an idiot!! that comes off for 2 reasons, replacing the fuel pump or the turbo. gees
 
   / 04 duramax diesel trouble #20  
Like I said, it's hard to find a good mechanic. The folks there (in the pic) kept the truck way too long. Parts was the reason but I figure it was a case of ignorance from inexperience.

Thanks again for yout input and information. I learn everyday.
 

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