110 tlb Problems

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mikeyp

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I have a 110 Tlb bought in May 2005. Here is a list of problems I've had.

Hoses for Loader routed badly and chafed after 10 hours or so. I pointed this out to the dealer and he rerouted them some. They still chafed but not as badly. He wrapped some rubber hose guards on them, that I had to replace every so ofted because they chafed instead of the hoses. No more problems during the warranty period.

About 16 months after purchase and 4 months out of warranty, one of the hydraulic lines on the loader finally chafed through. While inspecting this I noticed a leak way forward. Upon inspecting this I notced the front transaxle was leaking fluid. Took the tractor to the dealer. He found a PPI (whatever that is) for the leaking differential. And there was a retrofit kit for the hose routings to the FEL. Basically they turned the cylinders upside down to allow for more arc in the hoses. Both of these they fixed without charge even after the warranty was up. That really impressed me.

About 30 months after purchase.

The third function of the hydraulics is electrically operated by two solenoids. Three times now it has hung up in the neutral position. They want $1400 for the the 3 spool loader valve. I take the solenoids off and gently tap out the spool valve. Put it back and it will work ok as long as I work it most every day. But if it sits for a week or so, It sticks again.

Had to have the switch for the turn signals replaced twice.

Now is the first summer I've mowed with it. The hydraulic Temp gets very high while mowing. After about 45 minutes it goes into the yellow. I stop and let it cool down to the the middle of the green. Then I get about 25 minutes of mowing before it touches yellow again. I had this problem about 9 months ago while transporting some stumps. I had to haul them about a mile down the road. After a round trip it would be in the yellow again. I've checked every thing I can. Hydraulic fluid is ok. Radiator and Hydralulic cooler are clean. The rubber baffle is in place. The BH presence switch is working properly. And my feet warm up to about 140 degrees. And no, I'm not trying to mow in "C" range.

My dealer has been very helpful and he's checking on the hydraulic temp and hot feet problem now. I did notice an option for new 110's for a foot air deflector. But mines not in the serial number range. He's also checking on that.

Good things.

There hasn't been a stump I couldn't get out. One was so heavy that I had to dig an incline into the hole to get it out. The front end couldn't lift it until I hosed all the dirt out of the roots. And then only by rolling back the grapple. With the PA-30 auger it makes short work of putting in fences and foundation tubes.

The claw works wonders on vines up in the treeas and hauling stumps out of holes. On smaller pines up to about 6 inches you don't even have to dig a hole. Just grab it with the claw and rock it back and forth a few times. It's also great for stacking logs.

I can bury my two bottom plow and keep going. Though I wish it did have a draft control. The top and tilt kit is worth every penny. No more manually adjusting the plow after the first pull.

And the best part. My city slicker wife can muck out the stalls and empty the bucket on her own. She even knows how to lift the disc before moving if it's attached. Although she did make a couple scrapes down the middle of the barn one day. She came into the house to tell me the tractor was making a real bad grinding noise when she tried to move it.

JD 110 TLB
4 in 1 bucket
United Fabrication Heavy Duty Root Grapple
United Fabrication Hay Spear
United Fabrication Tree Boom
United Fabriction Palet Forks
PA-30 Auger
Ford 201 Disc Harrow
Ford 2 bottom plow
Woods rd7200 Finish Mower
Frontier BB1284 Box Blade
 
   / 110 tlb Problems #2  
She came into the house to tell me the tractor was making a real bad grinding noise when she tried to move it.:D
We still love em don't we. :rolleyes:
 
   / 110 tlb Problems #3  
Appreciate the rundown on the good and bad of owning and working your 110. It sounds like you've got a real good partner with your local dealer. And it appears that, for the most part, (except selenoids and overheating) your problems have not been overly serious.

As a new owner of a 110 (115 hrs or so), it's a good thing to hear from other owner's and the kinds of issues they've had and what to keep an eye open for...

The only issues that have come up for me are just a couple and they're just annoying for the most part - not anything serious.. yet.

1.) There's a disconcerting noise (kinda a chirp or vibrating) that's coming from the hydraulic system. It seems to be louder at certain rpm's and will come and go as you ramp up the rpm's. (Local dealer advised me to not run the tractor at those particular rpm's.... not exactly a solution, to my thinking.)

2.) Difficulty attaching and detaching front mounted (3rd SCV) hydraulic implements. The system doesn't always "depressurize" and the local dealer indicated that's a problem that occurs often with Bobcat and JD with the flat-faced Skid-steer connectors. I'm never sure if it's gonna be a hassle everytime I want to hook up my front grapple or not. The lead mechanic told me to rock the diverter switch back and forth; back and forth -- 50-75 times until the system drops enough pressure to push the connectors together. Sometimes that works.. other times I can connect the hoses with the engine at idle (not in the manual) but the most consistent method requires a 2-step process; need to depressure at unhooking and then depressure again at hookup with the sequence of steps in the manual.

I've used my tractor on stumps, trees, ripping, digging post holes, spreading fertilizer, and tototilling. Never had an overheating problem. The rototiller on sod ground was the hardest chore and would get that 5,000lb+ machine rockin' and rollin'! The temp gauge definitely went up from where it usually is but never close to the yellow (course, this past summer I think we had 75 degrees maybe 4-5 times..) so, when it's 90-100 degrees that would be a much different equation.

AKfish
 
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I have a 110 that i have owned for 5 years and have about 2000 hrs on. The hoses are an issue with chaffing. I looked at the upgrade for the new 110's and tried to copy the fix. I turned the loader pistons 180 degrees and re routed the hoses.. seems better... As for the Pressure release in the loader hydraulics...here is the solution i have found that works.. I have a 4in1 and remove frequently to use forks... should be the same for any front hydraulic implement.. when dismounting put it in the shade so pressure doesn't build up internally in the hydraulics... and i open my bucket slightly ... When i reattach i shut off the machine,cycle the key to the on position/machine off... Then activate the toggle for the loader hydraulics. release any pressure using the thumb switch (open/close) once. I then push forward the inside toggle switch ( the one to the right of the hydraulic activation switch) i believe its marked "A" "B"... this opens the circuit relieving all pressure for the left quick connect (when facing the tractor) and connect that hose. Then move the switch to the rear position and and it opens the other circuit and connect the other hose.. I tried for 2 years to get a straight answer from JD mechanics and service managers on this problem... I Came inches from making a pressure relief valve to insert between the two quick connects when i finally sat down and thought about the hydraulics and switches and figured this out...
 
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Hmm.. you hit the toggle on the joystick first and then go thru the hookup steps, huh? Well, that's another wrinkle to try the next time I find myself "cussin' and swearing" at the engineer's at Deere! Thanks.

What other problems have you had in 2,000 hours? Gotta be a few more glitches besides rubbed hoses on the loader?

Any ideas about the chirps and vibration from the hydraulic pump? I read on the forum here that Deere has had a similar issue with the pump on the 4720, specifically. From what I could find out; Deere provided some foam along the steering column to dampen the vibration and noise. Haven't heard if the pumps were prematurely failing or not --

AKfish
 
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I did loose the hydraulic pump at about 1700. Believe it was my fault though. I blew a hose on the 4in1 and think i sucked in sand while finishing a job. The steering Tie rod location sucks!!!! bent 2 so far driving over rocks I didnt see..but those are issues that can be avoided by the operator. The tractor has been great for me so far and have been very happy with it...As far as connecting the front mounted (3rd SCV) hydraulic implements the procedure always works. I believe thats one of the intended purposes for the "A B " valve. It relieves the pressure in the tractor lines... If your implement has built up pressure don't care what u do to the tractor the connections wont go on... in this case i usually hit the center of the quick connect with a punch or use a wrench to loosen the flat face connector and bleed off the pressure... I think im going to make a hose connection to place between the fittings on the bucket with a tee and ball valve so i can bleed off any built up pressure... that way i will never have an issue...
 
   / 110 tlb Problems #7  
The new model Bobcat skid-steers have a pressure release button for the front SCV's (2 different sizes on many of them) in the instrument cluster of the cab.

That would seem to be a much better way to deal with the issue - instead of forcing the owner's to install a ball-valve arrangement to release the hydraulic pressure that occurs with front mounted implements.

Hate to gouge up the face of the connectors bangin' on 'em with a big punch or wrench. And nothin' more slippery than havin' hydraulic fluid all over everything.

Whoa... trashed the pump!? Hate to guess what JD had to have for a new one... Any warranty help there?

AKfish
 
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The pressure relief would only be for the detached implement. The "A B" switch is the 110's pressure relief button. The hydraulic pump was $250ish.. but i wasn't sure if it was the pump because it was reading max pressure at at 1500 rpm but had a shatter in the hydraulics.... so the dealer worked on it for 3 days and in typical dealer fashion they hit me with $1500 in "I dont know" work because the manual didnt tell them the symptoms it was possessing was definitively the pump.... next time I work on it myself....I do remember the mechanic telling me about noise issues with the pumps... but i believe it had something to do with alignment issues and something with the coupling connecting to the crank. How do you like your machine?
 
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Overall - I'm real happy with the tractor. I'd buy another one without a 2nd thought! Recommend it highly.

Been workin' with it the past couple of days tryin' to get ready for winter. Real hard frosts the past several days and the forecast is for snow by the 6-7th of this month.

Moved 15 yards of gravel on Sat. into the horse corral and patched up some low areas in my driveway to level things up for snow plowing. Dug out 4 stumps for the neighbor this evening and backfilled the holes.

The 110 breezed thru that work in half the time it would have taken with my ol' JD 970 TLB.


AKfish
 
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I've had my 110 TLB model number LV0110T21XXXX for almost a decade now and I love this tractor. It has been very reliable and problem free. I purchased it new and have less than 1000 hours on it. Here are the issues I've had over the years:

1) Broke hydraulic hose connector fitting on backhoe dipperstick. Operator error...raised the stick and bumped it into a horizontal log. I replaced the fitting and hose with a new one.
2) Battery leaked acid into the battery box, pealing paint and starting rust. Probably also operator error letting the battery freeze and/or recharging with battery charger too quickly. I cleaned it up and repainted it.
3) Hour meter reset to 0 after about 200 hours.
4) Turn signal switch is temperamental. Sometimes it doesn't work or lights stick on rather than flash. Punching the side of the area below the switch with my fist usually fixes this.
5) Difficulty getting hydraulic lines attached to front auxiliary hydraulics. Operator error...didn't follow the procedure in the owners manual which left pressure in the implement and/or tractor.
6) I bought a used Bobcat 30C auger (skid steer mount) that turns pretty slow even at full throttle RPM...almost too slow to knock the dirt off the auger to clean it. I assume this isn't really a problem with either machine, just that the auger requires higher flow rate for optimal operation than the 110 TLB auxiliary front hydraulics produce. It works okay, it just is slow and requires full throttle. Can someone with a PA15 or PA30 comment on how theirs operates?
7) Tractor loses power and dies when going uphill - maybe 50% of the time. I think this started happening after the last time I changed the fuel filter, so maybe operator error as well. I can back up a hill just fine, but if I go forwards up the hill it often dies. Doesn't matter if I have a full tank of diesel or a nearly empty tank. Doesn't matter if I go up the hill at idle or full throttle, though if I let off the peddle soon enough I can avoid it dying sometimes. It might happen more frequently after running the tractor at lower RPMs for a while. If I run it at high RPMs for a while it seems less likely to die going up slope. It has been this way for a year or two now. I haven't yet tried re-installing the fuel filter, but I plan to next time I do maintenance because I assume there must be an air pocket or something causing this. Has anyone else had this problem, know the cause, or know the solution?

Mine doesn't have auxiliary rear hydraulics or seventh function on backhoe. So that I can operate the hydraulics on my 4-basket tedder, I routed one new hydraulic line from the front auxiliary hydraulics to the back which seems to be working fine and the routing seems to be okay as a permanent solution - not really getting in the way of anything.
 

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