Snow 1700 in the snow

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JB4310

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J.D. 4310 E-hydro
I've had this 1700 a couple of years and wanted to try her out in the snow, so I got some chains and put a 6' rear blade on.
I'm impressed at what it's capable of with only 2wd, very impressed, what a difference the chains make, never came close to getting stuck even on steep drive.
I've been trying all kinds of snow removal gadgets and techniques but the tried and true driving forward with plow facing forward works just fine.
The 2 cyl shibaura makes a plesent kinda chitty, chitty bang, bang sound, seats a little stiff though:(

Jumping from a modern E-hydro to an older gear machine takes a minute to get in the right rythem with the cluch, stick and 3 pt lever, but once you get it it's not bad, no PS is harder in the snow.
JB.
 

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The Ford 1700 4 wd was my fist true love.
What an incredible tractor she was.
 
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JB4310,

Thanks for the Snow Pics. That 1700 still looks in pretty good shape. Looks like you painted her. How many hours on the machine ??

Vic
 
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Nice 1700. I have one as well, and love it. They are tough little tractors. Mine has only 850 hrs on it and runs real well. Will never have to use it to plow snow with though, but I can believe it would do well. The only thing ive had to replace on mine so far is the lift poston seal, and that was an easy job. I know what you mean about the seat, I need a new one. The ol boat seat cushion works for now lol.
 
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Jumping from a modern E-hydro to an older gear machine takes a minute to get in the right rythem with the cluch, stick and 3 pt lever, but once you get it it's not bad, no PS is harder in the snow.
JB.

Good morning John,

Looks real good. I have no experience with snow plowing using a tractor and got a comment and question. Looking at the geometry of the action looks to me pushing is better than pulling, in other word having the blade in front rather than the rear if you're going forward. Let say you have 2 feet of snow, would you not compress the snow before the blade gets the opportunity to clean it out in the configuration you have? How would you get rid of your spoil in that configuration? Would it not be better to reverse the blade and going backward? I know control going backward is more difficult. I suppose you can put the blade/plow in front but have to add support and extra hyd control where you already have the lift ad 3 point to use. What do you think?

one more question, where did yo get your chain?


JC,

This 1700 is not mine , I just found it on Internet for sale.

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This one has 2600+ hours, orig paint. It had a tough life for a few years with a comercial landscape contractor who worked it harder than it was designed for, so it's a little tired and was hard cold starting til I put a lower radiator heater on, now it's much happier :)

Even if your not in a snow region, if you have any traction issues throw some chains on, the thing is like s dozer with those wide tires hooking up.

I had it under a shed but the seat foam (if there's any left) must not of dried out from the last time it got wet, temps in low 20's had some snow on the seat so I tilted it up and smacked it with the back of my hand like I do with the nice cushiony soft JD seat to knock the snow loose, Mistake :( the thing is as hard as a block of ice, gotta get a pillow! something I never thought I'd be saying.
JB.
 
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Good morning John,

Looks real good. I have no experience with snow plowing using a tractor and got a comment and question. Looking at the geometry of the action looks to me pushing is better than pulling, in other word having the blade in front rather than the rear if you're going forward. Let say you have 2 feet of snow, would you not compress the snow before the blade gets the opportunity to clean it out in the configuration you have? How would you get rid of your spoil in that configuration? Would it not be better to reverse the blade and going backward? I know control going backward is more difficult. I suppose you can put the blade/plow in front but have to add support and extra hyd control where you already have the lift ad 3 point to use. What do you think?

one more question, where did yo get your chain?


JC,

This 1700 is not mine , I just found it on Internet for sale.

Hi JC,
With 4x4, a front blade would definitely be better but with only 4x2 I'm not sure,

I thought the same as you about compacting the snow and wouldn't even try it in this configuration, I had this plow on the back of my modern 4x4 JD with loader and was using it as a supplement to the loader, was trying it backwards to push, was trying it driving forwards with blade reversed over gravel so it wouldn't dig in, that's why I had all that extra weight on it.

Used it a little in the normal position to get in front of doors or at the drive aprons, but wouldn't try using it like that for doing the whole job, even after reading here from many old timers who swore by it.

Got a new contraption for the JD and wanted to use this blade on the Ford, so didn't have much choices and just went for it the conventional way, in this storm there was no problem at all with compaction actually scrapes down better than most front plows?

Was impressed overall at the performance of plowing like this, with using the loader there's actually more passes involved because your picking up every flake, with the angled plow your leaving 90+% of the snow to the side, yes you get spoil build up but you can push that back by backing into the bank with the blade still facing forward to push it back. Didn't have good traction pushing backwards to far though.

Of course nothing like a loader to move piles of snow, but for moderate snows this worked better than I expected. I may put this back on the JD with a power angle cylinder to make it more usable.

That's a sweet 4x4 in your picture, plow looks HD, but maybe to heavy for this machine.

Here's a pic of the other contraption I referred to for the JD's 3 pt.
This is my brain child and though the jury's still out it seems to have performed well in it's maiden voyage.

Been waiting for snow to try all this stuff out, was out side most of the day yesterday, and today it's coming down again pretty good so I'll get some more seat time, soon I'll be cursing the snow:)
 

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The reason the 1700 is doing so good is because it is trying to get away from that GREEN thing behind it. Just kidding. To me it seems when you are going forward the blade seems to dig in better. Also my neck doesn't get as stiff. It must be a hard decision on which tractor you are going to plow with or do you take turns.
Bill
 
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JB4310,

I have a Ford 1000 and wondered where you got the chains? Looks like the same size and tread type as my rear tires. I just picked up a 1100 with a front blade and 4wd, came with chains too, but I have to have everything real nice so its it pieces now getting paint and a good going over.

Got a good chuckle about trying to get away from the green blade.....
 
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JB4310,

I have a Ford 1000 and wondered where you got the chains? Looks like the same size and tread type as my rear tires. I just picked up a 1100 with a front blade and 4wd, came with chains too, but I have to have everything real nice so its it pieces now getting paint and a good going over.

Got a good chuckle about trying to get away from the green blade.....


As far as the chains, JC wanted to know also, got a great deal, turned out to be the same quality as dealer wanted $450. for 1 set, if you really want to know you can read about them here.
there's a craigslist link but it doesn't link to an active ad. I know that's not allowed anymore but at the time I guess it was ok.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/owning-operating/132114-whats-good-source-tire-chains.html
 

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