1964 model 165 Diesel/ Multi-Power staying in low range

[jfbnntt61]

I have the multi-power on my 165 and it stays in Low range. I adjusted the linkage on the control. There was another adjustment located under the steering console, but you cannot reach it. Is there anything else I can do before calling the tractor mechanic?

 

[namyessam]

I have the multi-power on my 165 and it stays in Low range. I adjusted the linkage on the control. There was another adjustment located under the steering console, but you cannot reach it. Is there anything else I can do before calling the tractor mechanic?

How long have you had the tractor? Has it ever worked before? When was the last trans - hydraulic fluid change and filter cleaned?

I am dealing with the same problem on my 135. I have had the tractor for 4 years and it worked (sortof) when I bought it then it quit. I left the lever in low for the last 3 years and early this spring I had it on the road and decided to give it a try and low and behold it worked in and out about six times. Then the next time it didn't work. I changed the fluid and cleaned the filters and just got it back together this past weekend and no go. I will need to pull the lift cover and check the multipower pump pressure first. This is the only way to check pump pressure on my model. I have some hope since it shifted strong that it might be a pressure relief valve in the pump, or the pump needs to be rebuilt and not the clutch pack, it will require the tracor to be split in two places.

The multipower is operated by a separate hydraulic pump for the multipower. If your tractor has independent pto it should have a fitting that a pressure gage can be hooked to on the pto cover on the left side of the transmission to check the pump pressure. The independent pto is operated with the multipower pump. Also from reading the I & T manual some tractors have an oil cooler that have exposed oil line that can be disconnected to check the pump pressure. I suggest if you are going to try to repair it yourself, get a service manual. This is not something to go at blindly. There are a lot of things that can get you in trouble fast and will be expensive to fix if done wrong. Good Luck!

namyessam

 

[jfbnntt61]

Not long. I was going to change the fluid and clean or replace the filter. What hydraulic fluid is recommended for the massey? Also, how do I get to the filter? I noticed the lift was a little jumpy when I used it. I figured a fluid change might help.

 

[namyessam]

Not long. I was going to change the fluid and clean or replace the filter. What hydraulic fluid is recommended for the massey? Also, how do I get to the filter? I noticed the lift was a little jumpy when I used it. I figured a fluid change might help.

Fluid has to meet or exceed Massey Ferguson spec. M1129 or M1129a. It can be bought at TSC, I think I have read Walmart or NAPA has comparable oils also. Filter can be accessed from the pto lever cover. There is a wire keeping the top of the filter from unscrewing. be sure to remove the top, filter and the bottom in assembly or the sludge will be spilt into the differential A 165 may be slightly different than a 135. replace the wire when complete. The 135 holds about 8 gallons, a 165 should be about the same. have two five gallons buckets ready to drain in to. There are two plugs on the lower left side of the trans diff housing. There should be seals on both plugs. recent posts have stated cleaning the filter and fluid helped the jumpy three point. Multipower is anybodys guess.

filter is a fine screen and can be washed in solvent and reinstalled if in good shape. add 5 to six gallons and check oil level and add as necessary. Drain the oil with three point arms down.

 

[redman135]

Do the simple stuff (oil,filters,linkages are correctly adjusted) first. You can partially conpensate for a worn multipower with correctly adjusted multipower shift linkages.
If you need to break the tractor, then it gets expensive. There are 2 things that that cause no high multipower. First, the multipower clutch pack is worn out, Or secondly the "nose cone" may be worn out. It mimics a worn clutch pack and you can't tell until you go in and pull every thing out. The multipower clutch pack is at the back of the gearbox and the mechanic said it comes out the front. The gear shafts have to come out first from memory.I had mine done by the dealer about '98/'99 and the real trouble was the worn out nose cone which was remanufactured. The original multipower clutch pack went back in as it was in good condition in spite of 3 or 4000 hours since fitting in the mid to late 70's.
Multipower gearboxes like oil. A trick to extend the multipower life is to take the tranmission dipstick and measure the distance from high to low levels marked, then measure the same distance above the high level indicator mark and add a new "high" mark. This was done by the MF dealer mechabic who did the multipower replacement back in the 70's