200CX FEL Weight and Trailer Question

[mntrails]

I'm trying to figure out if a 2305, FEL, Tiller, and box blade will fit on a 6-1/2' X 12' flatbed aluminum trailer with a GVW of 3000 lbs. The trailer weighs approx. 550 lbs.
I have the following weights from specs:
- 2305 - 1450 lbs.
- Tiller - 321 lbs.
- Box Blade - 275 lbs.

If the 200CX FEL is 400 lbs or less, I should be ok. Does anyone know the weight of it?

 

[Willl]

614 lb per JD's "Compact Tractor Implements" brochure.

 

[kennyd]

Not sure of the weight guessing 500-600lbs with bucket, but I think your pushing your luck with that setup. The 12' length will not allow you to adjust the position of the machine for optimal tongue weight and balance over what I assume is a single axle? Does it have brakes? What is the tow vehicle?


I would not want to risk my tractor, trailer, and truck on a setup that was just pounds inside being "in spec" But this IS MY OPINION, and it just may be worth what your paid for it

 

[seldridge279]

The JD Tractor Implement brochure that I have shows the weight for the loader alone as 614lbs. Then whatever the bucket is add to that.

 

[mntrails]

Thanks for the figures. I prefer some margin as well. At 614 lbs, I'm going to have to cut back and take two trips. Fortunately I don't need to move the FEL much, perhaps just once or twice a year. Most of the time, I'll just have the 2305 and mower on when trailering. As you might imagine, a new trailer isn't in the near-term plan.

 

[dmg]

Hello , I have a 6 1/2 X 12 steel trailer with 28" sides and a 3000# axle and I haul my 2305 with the 62C , Fel and tiller all of the time , the only problem is the total length , I have to dismount the tiller and haul it up front under the Fel. I think you will be Fine!

Sorry I just Realized that you said GVW of 3000 , You are pushing the limit!

 

[mntrails]

dmg, thanks for the picture. I can see how the 12' length would be a tad bit short with the FEL on.

I'm curious though why virtually any single axle trailer, aluminum or steel, wouldn't be over its recommended weight limit with a 2305, FEL and an implement or two?

All the single axle trailers I've seen usually have a GVWR of either 3000 lbs or 3500 lbs. From my experience, this is typically driven by the axle rating. Steel trailers usually weigh in the 900 - 1100 lb range. Keeping it simple and assuming 1000 lb weight, that leaves a net payload weight of 2000 - 2500 lbs.

That would indicate to me that the proper trailer for an FEL equiped 2305 is a dual axle with brakes. Does that sound right to everyone out there? Thanks!

 

[VABlue]

That's what I would say. The trailer weight must be taken into account when determining load weights because the axel is what carries that load. A 3000# rated axel under a 1000# trailer can only safely carry 2000# of load. And that assumes you have the proper tires (in good condition) on the axel! I prefer to stay a little lean of max rated loads because the trailer will tend to sway some as the load increases.

 

[orlo]

Hi:

The loader is 560lbs (I'm not sure this includes the POST mounts). and the 53" bucket is 180lbs. I wouldn't do it. Also, are your tires loaded? What about your Ballast block? My little 2305 with the loader and deck on it weights over 3000lbs, probably maybe 3300 including the Canopy (1450 + 200[loaded tires] + 560 [loader] + 180[bucket] + 700 [ballast block or BH] = 3090. The deck would add another 200 and the canopy probably adds 50.

Also, what is the trailer for? You mentioned aluminum, is it a sknomobile trailer? If so there are other considerations. Is the floor plywood?

I have a 6000# gvw (3600lbs net) 22' inside, 30' outside enclosed snowmobile trailer that I was going to use for my 2305 with the rops folded (Femco ROPS), but after talking with the trailer mfg (mainly about re-inforcing the the ramp door) I decided not to. The Tractor will concentrate a lot of weight over the wheels and it won't be distributed well on the floor of an aluminum trailer (if it's meant for lighter things) - it might damage the floor or worse poke a wheel through the floor. (My floor had 2' centers on the aluminum cross members so the little wheels on the 2305 could have easily have poked through the plywood).

Instead I bought a 18' 10,000lb tandem axle steel trailer. I figured I had room to grow and it gives me space with the 2305 to throw on a couple of implements also.

Now that I have the 3720 I'm glad I did, I'll need the weight and the length.

 

[chopprjok2000]

I think the trailer would probably carry the weight adequately, but I would definitely have some safety concerns with trailering a tractor on any single axle trailer. It might be alright if you were not going further than 5 miles or so and never had to drive faster than 45 mph. But I would never put that kind of load on a single axle trailer, then get on the highway and drive 55 or more miles per hour. If you have a blow out, you would have some controlability issues.

Just my two cents worth.

 

[mntrails]

The point that becomes clear to me from the input above is just how much weight a FEL and proper ballast add to a 2305. What to the eye looks like a small member of the Compact Utility class becomes pretty hefty fast.

To answer some of the queries above, the aluminum trailer I'm referring to is a sturdy mid-to-heavy weight utility flatbed. The floor is extruded aluminum channel about 6" wide. I don't have any concerns with it handling the tractor and mower or the tractor and a tiller. It's made for just this type of hauling of equipment, etc.

The 2305 still belongs to John Deere , but it will have unfilled turf tires. The use 80-90% of the time is mowing.

Now that I know what weight I'm dealing with, for the near term, I think it can be safe (within the realm of what any single axle trailer is) as long as I take care to stay somewhat under the trailer weight limit. Something in the 2000 lb to 2200 lb payload range seems about right as a maximum. This will mean I take multiple trips when I need more than one implement remotely. Fortunately I have a second 5 X 10 steel flatbed also rated at 3000 lbs. My life can be a little easier if I use the loader to load that trailer, then take the 2305 and loader to the remote site, then return for the implements in the other trailer. Not time efficient, but this if for fun, not profit.

For the long-term, it seems that a dual axle is the best way to go. Something else to save for I guess!

 

[RollTideRam]

When I had a 2520, I hauled it with the 62d on a 6.5x12 trailer. It weighed around 2400# and the trailer limit was 2800#. I had no problems, but I have a Dodge 2500 truck. JC

 

[VABlue]

A half ton truck can pull that setup without a problem, Tide. But you probably knew that!