2011 Duramax questions??

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WilliamBos

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Does anyone on here run a new Duramax, 2011 and up? How is the mileage? How many miles do you have on it?

No interest in modding one, as it will be bone stock. Was considering a 2500HD 6.0 when I replace my truck, but if the Duramax will pull the same, or better mileage, then why not, eh? Plus the benefit of the Allison.


Interested in hearing on all years too folks.
 
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I got a 2012. Purchased it new about 4 months ago.

The first 4,000 miles, I can say that average mpg for me is about 15-16 combined. City driving is terrible, if that's all you do. Highway driving is good.... about 18 to 19.9. I say 19.9 because I had never been able (with uncovered bed) to eclipse 20mpg with any amount of sustained driving although I got awfully close.

About 3 weeks ago, I bought a Leer cab height shell. I don't think it has done anything for the city mileage. Added about 200# to the truck although the 3/4 tons don't really seem to notice. BEFORE buying the shell, I researched through all the forums and many folks were saying that mpg would drop with the cap, even on the highway due to extra wind drag. I was expecting for the worse but needed the cap because I was making a long trip to haul lots of paper files and needed the cap. So 2 weeks ago, I drove 4,000 miles round trip with the "new" cap. Results were pleasantly suprising: On the empty leg to Missouri (from California), For the most part, I averaged about 21.5mpg.... up hills, down hills, with traffic, with headwinds.... Best tankful I got was 23.7mpg. Worse tank I got was 18.7mpg. On the return trip, I loaded up about 2500#'s in the bed. Another 5,000#'s or so in a 6x12 tandem uhaul trailer. This resulted in a worse mpg of 11 through ferocious kansas winds. Best I got was 15.7mpg once the winds were somewhat calm. This was done with truck in tow/haul mode (as members here have suggested). Seems to tow fine in "normal" mode too but as the truck was new, I wanted to err on the side of caution. I do believe that mpg's take a hit when in tow/haul mode although by how much, I do not know. Transmission temps during the loaded return leg varied from 140f to 165f depending upon how much wind, whether on hilly roads or flat. Deccelerating downhill is likely to result in as high tranny temps as pulling uphill. Flats is when the tranny temp is lowest, although I have heard that anything less than 200f is fine. Anyhow, back home safe and sound now, and the truck now has 8,000+ miles on it.

I should say that the transmission makes this truck such a joy to use. It shifts smooth as silk and is a perfect match for the engine. I am also expecting the truck brakes to last probably forever. That's because the combined automatic engine braking and high compression of the motor means the truck slows down gracefully whenever the gas pedal is let up on. While this does take some getting used to when migrating from a gas motor, once you do, you'll probably like it a lot. Not nearly as extreme but think hydrostatic tranny on a tractor and you'll get the idea. My wife's Chev Tahoe, by comparision, on downhill treks feels like a runaway bowling ball and toasts the brakes rather readily if doing lots of hilly driving.
 
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I had never driven a Duramax/Allison powered HD before. I test drove a 2011 before buying my current truck (2011 GMC Sierra 4x4, 6.2, 3.73 gears) and I was SHOCKED at how much I didn't like it. I don't know if it was just the truck I test drove or what but I honestly was NOT overly impressed with the power. Maybe my expectations going in were too high but I honestly was very let down. This truck was only an extended cab, 4x4, LT package so not really feature filled but not stripped down either. To me the Allison shifted just like any other tranny that Ford and Dodge offers. Shocking, right? you'd be surprise how close Ford's transmission is to the Allison as far as smoothness goes. I will say the improvements with the frame were noticable, the ride was actually very good and the truck drove pretty well. I just felt the F-250 6.7 I test drove felt more powerful then the duramax did.
 
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Thanks guys. What you experienced was the duramax's fuel mapping on take off. A lot of the diesel guys are awaiting a new programmer that will over ride that.

Another option is a 2500HD gasser.

I had never driven a Duramax/Allison powered HD before. I test drove a 2011 before buying my current truck (2011 GMC Sierra 4x4, 6.2, 3.73 gears) and I was SHOCKED at how much I didn't like it. I don't know if it was just the truck I test drove or what but I honestly was NOT overly impressed with the power. Maybe my expectations going in were too high but I honestly was very let down. This truck was only an extended cab, 4x4, LT package so not really feature filled but not stripped down either. To me the Allison shifted just like any other tranny that Ford and Dodge offers. Shocking, right? you'd be surprise how close Ford's transmission is to the Allison as far as smoothness goes. I will say the improvements with the frame were noticable, the ride was actually very good and the truck drove pretty well. I just felt the F-250 6.7 I test drove felt more powerful then the duramax did.
 
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I had never driven a Duramax/Allison powered HD before. I test drove a 2011 before buying my current truck and I was SHOCKED at how much I didn't like it. I don't know if it was just the truck I test drove or what but I honestly was NOT overly impressed with the power. Maybe my expectations going in were too high but I honestly was very let down.

Not sure about the 2011 which I presume is the same as my 2012, but to me, the Duramax is a real fierce beast and certainly not lacking of power. There is a small lag if you get on the throttle too quick but when the power comes, it comes on very strong, especially if unloaded. I will say that on my last trip, we got on the throttle to pass another vehicle and even with the guesstimated combined weight of around 15k#, it passed with good seat in the pants feel, something that is impressive even for a standard passenger vehicle, never mind a truck tipping the scales at 15k#'s.

On the other hand, I've noticed through experience that the throttle curve is light on the first 1/2 and comes on really strong on the second 1/2. I guess what I'm saying is in order to really see the power, you'll need to step a bit deeper on the pedal -- then it comes on like gangbusters. Total power is not less than the Ford. I have seen several tests in diesel truck magazines that concluded that the new Duramax outpulls the Ford, especially when loaded, and has better exhaust brakes as well. My understanding is that the Ford does do better with turbo implementation as a smaller turbo? comes on first minimizing turbo lag compared to the duramax which does have a noticeable turbo lag. Perhaps this is why the ford seemed more powerful?
 
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Thanks guys. What you experienced was the duramax's fuel mapping on take off. A lot of the diesel guys are awaiting a new programmer that will over ride that.

Another option is a 2500HD gasser.

i have a 2011 3500hd reg cab wt with 6.0l its got 4.10 in it its got 15k miles on it now i had no problems with it its rated at 10,700 its a SRW i average 13 unloaded when i pull the deckover i got 9-9.5 mpg that was 14k on trailer i wouldnt buy i new d max im friends with a gm master tech and gentral master tech the has an 05 2500hd d max he pulls a 14k 5th wheel camper he said he average 10 on hiway with camper i dont know bout the lilttle tank under the pass side i think the new emissions is a headache on a 2011 up diesel and when a gm diesel brokes major repair cost after warrents up oh my 1 ton was 500 more then a 2500hd and can haul more id say gass in my book the guy next door has an 4500 4x4 with d max its an 08 the injector went south 8k later it was fixed
 
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Thanks. All diesels are expensive. I refuse to buy a used diesel as you do not kniw what you are getting, and SCR is a better solutiin over cooled egr.

The new HD line comes out a year from now. All it will be is a new interior and new gas engine, as the vhassis and dmax were done already. But you never know, the dmax may get an overhaul too.

In ontario, anything over a 2500HD/250 require a commercial sticker, and all the headaches that go with it, like log books and circle checks. That is my biggest reason for wanting a 2500HD. Can still haul with it, as a personal vehicle, as long as it is for personal use
 
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I have a 2012 GMC 2500 HD with the Duramax I to was getting 19.9 mpg. Then with the box full so the air comeing over the cab and not hitting the tailgate i got 21mpg WOW i love this truck.
 

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