2021 Current Lawn and Garden Tractor Market-My Observations Part-3

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Very Modifierd Husqvarna/GT48DXLS
Now for the brands with actual Dealers and service for tractors verses zero turns.

1) Husqvarna, they have models only available at the Dealer, the brand code will be a "D" as in GT48DXLS verses GT48XLS.

2) Cub Cadet/Yanmar Dealers.

3) Simplicity Tractors. (Snapper is the Simplicity Regent?)

4) John Deere (if it's at the box store you can buy direct from the Dealer).

5) Kubota lawn and Garden tractors.

Husqvarna quickly, I don't trust them and I'm willing to show through there own words and adverts to include vendor deception and warranty deception with the now close to 30GB of data on them I have, but when requested for specific purposes. I would only recommend them to the project builder that wants to build a great GT out of a cheap package like I did, knowing they won't have a warranty up front, but that's the only way.

Cub Cadet, is an MTD brand like Craftsman, troy Built, and some store brands, but Cub Cadet is the premium line. They offer one model of actual Garden Tractor with the Hydro Gear BDU-10 transaxle that is very good, and very maintainable, the XT3 is only available from a Dealer. If you have a Dealer in your area I recommend looking at the difference between the XT2 and XT3 for your needs. My question with them will be in how long parts are supported. I believe (not fact) that parts are supported longer than any brand at a box store but not as long as the top 3 brands of lawn and garden tractors.

XT3 GSX MSRP$5,599. 25HP Kohler Command series (the command series has a very good reputation like Kawasaki), 54" mowing deck? Fully welded chassis, a real bargain in the Garden Tractor class. The BDU-10 has a rear axle that rivals the Tuff Torq K72 at 30MM or 1 and 1/4" in diameter axles and differential lock for traction under a load- drive shaft driven with belts.

That brings me to the top of the chain in every way. These Dealers give the specs to safely use ground engagement implements on their GT's, and only these three brands, that's a big deal, and honest in my opinion.

John Deere
. I can get parts manuals and parts for tractors that are 30 years old +. They are more expensive, but there is peace of mind in owning a Deere when they expect you to maintain them for decades in some models and not just throw them away. John Deere customers are usually very satisfied with there product. John Deere is the only one I know that has a special Tuff Torq K46 HD? that is maintainable, just for them ordered specific from Tuff Torq with drain bolts.

Since you have a farm and want actual reliable service from your tractor, in John Deere I recommend their X series, at minimum the X300 but the X500 is just truly a well built tractor that your son will only have to change the oil in for years, a solid machine.

The X330 MSRP $3,599. 22HP Deere brand motor, shares the same fully welded chassis that the X500 GT has (very strong), 48" mowing deck, Tuff Torq K46 (I think this is the weak point) but so much more.

The X570 MSRP$ 6,399. 24HP water cooled? Kawasaki FS730V (I have the air cooled version of this, great motor), fully welded chassis, 48" mowing deck, Tuff Torq K72 transaxle with hydraulic accessory ports for ground engagement implements (light).

The X570 is a true Garden Tractor.

If Snapper comes up, it's revived by Simplicity see Simplicity.

Simplicity Regent Lawn Tractor MSRP$2,949. 48" mowing deck, Hybrid "C" channel Pan chassis (same as the Snapper), 25HP Briggs Pro Series motor, Tuff Torq K46 transaxle.

Simplicity Broadmore Lawn Tractor with perks MSRP$5,249. 48" mowing deck, Heavy welded hybrid channel chassis, 25HP Briggs, Tuff Torq K62 transaxle (Tuff Torq commercial series ground engagement qualified).

Simplicity customers are also like Deere customers very satisfied and some are fanatical. Well built machines/service/parts are supported for decades.

Kubota. I'm told that Kubota builds there lawn tractors for their farm/ heavy equipment customers.

Kubota T2290KWT-48 MSRP $5,249
. or the GR2020G Garden Tractor MSRP$8,856. People have put thousands of hours on these over decades. Very nice, comfortable, well built machines.

The support provided to the customers of Simplicity, John Deere, and Kubota are first class in every way. If the sticker is high, look used. I wouldn't hesitate to buy a GT from Kubota, Deere, or Simplicity that was 10 years old, I would hesitate to buy new from the non premium brands knowing the product is sold in different colors but is the same product across brands and without much actual warranty backing, especially Husqvarna.

All this to get to my advice
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You need your tractor more than the average person like myself. I would start at the top. Make appointments with your local John Deere Dealer and try the X5 first, then the X3. Make an appointment with your local Kubota Dealer and try the GR2020G with diesel without diesel, then the T2290KWT. Make an appointment with your local Simplicity Dealer and try the Conquest GT, then the Broadmore, then the Regent. If you have a local Cub Cadet Yanmar Dealer try the XT3 GSX then an XT2.

These premium Dealers will have models you can actually operate on their grounds, get a feel for how sturdy and confident they are. How easy or difficult they actually are. They will most likely be all too happy and with pride show you there service and parts departments just like a quality car Dealer.

After you experience quality and get a feel for it, then go to the box store and at least sit on one, open the hood, if they allow you to push it, do this too. I'm willing to bet if you do this, actually do this, the sticker on the premium brands won't hurt so much and it will be very clear what you want by aligning your expectation outside of advertisements and cheap prices. I believe that whatever you choose after all this and a fine dinner (remember to treat yourself) you will be happy with it.

Feel free to ask me for some proof if you need it in this process, you aren't buying a tractor for three years then throwing it away, but the stores are more than willing to sell you a tractor that needs a Coke can to keep running.

:)
 
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I just purchased a Simplicty Conquest/52" deck;replaced a JD G100 that has a 54"deck(still very good and giving it to my son) only has 560 hours on it and I have serviced it every spring.Impressed with all the bells and whistles on the Conquest;should be my last mower.
 
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I just purchased a Simplicty Conquest/52" deck;replaced a JD G100 that has a 54"deck(still very good and giving it to my son) only has 560 hours on it and I have serviced it every spring.Impressed with all the bells and whistles on the Conquest;should be my last mower.
I love hearing these stories. It really does make a difference to by from a quality manufacturer, and to hand down the family tractor is legacy! That Conquest looks incredibly stout, what went into it over a Deere or Kubota?
 
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You put some good thought into your post. There is truth in one size doesn't fit all. . .
 
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My G100 is a 2004 model and have no complaints for sure;25 HP Kohler twin.The Conquest has a 25 HP twin B&S ,fabricated deck,hydrualic lift on deck,push button raise/lower cut,sealed bearing all around,shocks in back,nice airy seat(on springs) ,traction control and the over all build quality is very good.All metal,no plastic other than dash and trim.And it's Orange!
A friend had purchased a Broadmore a couple years ago,I was impressed with the well thought out machine and build quality.I also read/watched a ton of reviews.
 
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My G100 is a 2004 model and have no complaints for sure;25 HP Kohler twin.The Conquest has a 25 HP twin B&S ,fabricated deck,hydrualic lift on deck,push button raise/lower cut,sealed bearing all around,shocks in back,nice airy seat(on springs) ,traction control and the over all build quality is very good.All metal,no plastic other than dash and trim.And it's Orange!
A friend had purchased a Broadmore a couple years ago,I was impressed with the well thought out machine and build quality.I also read/watched a ton of reviews.

Sealed bearings all around! It's the attention to detail right? Do you plan on getting any implements for it?
 
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Sometimes you have to look at cost vs duty cycle very closely. You either have to be very rich or have a huge lawn over 10 acres to buy expensive riding lawnmowers. I paid $1700 with mulch kit and 3 bin bagger for my Husvarna yth2448 back in 2006. Still starts up first crank, doesn't burn oil and cuts beautifully. I now have 500 hours on it....why the heck would I want to pay 5,000 plus on a glorified lawn mower? Does it come with a driver?

Craftsmen, Husqvarna, Husky, and other lower cost brands can and will last a very long time if you take care of them and buy the right size for your needs.
 
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Sometimes you have to look at cost vs duty cycle very closely. You either have to be very rich or have a huge lawn over 10 acres to buy expensive riding lawnmowers. I paid $1700 with mulch kit and 3 bin bagger for my Husvarna yth2448 back in 2006. Still starts up first crank, doesn't burn oil and cuts beautifully. I now have 500 hours on it....why the heck would I want to pay 5,000 plus on a glorified lawn mower? Does it come with a driver?

Craftsmen, Husqvarna, Husky, and other lower cost brands can and will last a very long time if you take care of them and buy the right size for your needs.
I think I can answer that question.
I had a 2010 JD 110 42" riding mower that I bought at Lowes, with my VA discount for $1,200.
I am now 80 years old, and decided a ZT mower might be much easier for me to operate.
I bought a SCAG Liberty Z 48" last Fall, for $4,400 OTD.
Gave the JD 110 (which only had 125 hours) to my son.
I could not be happier with my decision!
 
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Sometimes you have to look at cost vs duty cycle very closely. You either have to be very rich or have a huge lawn over 10 acres to buy expensive riding lawnmowers. I paid $1700 with mulch kit and 3 bin bagger for my Husvarna yth2448 back in 2006. Still starts up first crank, doesn't burn oil and cuts beautifully. I now have 500 hours on it....why the heck would I want to pay 5,000 plus on a glorified lawn mower? Does it come with a driver?

Craftsmen, Husqvarna, Husky, and other lower cost brands can and will last a very long time if you take care of them and buy the right size for your needs.

If you have 500 hours on a 15 year olds mower that averages 33 hours a year mowing? Probably about 1 hour per mowing session.

For sure you do not need a commercial quality mower!

MoKelly
 

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