Use a long chain top link so the weight of the implement is the only down force, just like a 3-point hitch.
Bruce
3 point implements at the end of a backhoe - bad idea?
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Use a long chain top link so the weight of the implement is the only down force, just like a 3-point hitch.
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Why don't you buy a grading bucket off of a mini-hoe and set it to pin on to your machine.
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How easily can the backhoe boom be removed? With that piece of hardware removed, the tractor should easily handle a 3pt hitch.
With a little engineering you could probably find a way to attach the quick hitch to the backhoe mount. This attachment point should be plenty strong. Depending on how the 3pt hitch is constructed, you might be able to use the backhoe pivot cylinders to angle the 3pt to the left or right. This might be desirable in certain applications.
If you had some picture of the back end of the machine, it might help with some more suggestions.
Good luck.
With a little engineering you could probably find a way to attach the quick hitch to the backhoe mount. This attachment point should be plenty strong. Depending on how the 3pt hitch is constructed, you might be able to use the backhoe pivot cylinders to angle the 3pt to the left or right. This might be desirable in certain applications.
If you had some picture of the back end of the machine, it might help with some more suggestions.
Good luck.
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Would also be aware to not apply a lot of torque to the pins. Consider that pulling a rake on uneven ground to level or even smooth it would apply a twisting force to the boom pins that may cause premature wear.
Wouldn't want to do this as a normal operation, but occasional use would be ok.
Let us know how it works, I thought about how handy this could be in tight places where a large tractor couldn't reach.
Wouldn't want to do this as a normal operation, but occasional use would be ok.
Let us know how it works, I thought about how handy this could be in tight places where a large tractor couldn't reach.
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Running implements from your backhoe is a bad idea - side loading could damage the 'hoe - they are not made to resist a whole lot of sideways force.
Use your FEL. A friend of mine has a Skidskeer QC bucket on his Kubota B26 - he had a plate made that clips onto the bucket mounts and has 3pt attachments on the other side. He can then run 3pt attachments in reverse, without having to remove his backhoe. It is brilliant and works perfectly.
You could do the same thing with a pin-on using some kind of creative fabrication. You might even be able to mount something directly onto the bucket through clamps or holes and bolts or something.
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Use your FEL. A friend of mine has a Skidskeer QC bucket on his Kubota B26 - he had a plate made that clips onto the bucket mounts and has 3pt attachments on the other side. He can then run 3pt attachments in reverse, without having to remove his backhoe. It is brilliant and works perfectly.
You could do the same thing with a pin-on using some kind of creative fabrication. You might even be able to mount something directly onto the bucket through clamps or holes and bolts or something.
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I see no reason that you can not add a small attachment on the end of the BH for grading, ditch work, etc. You could use any of the mini-skid attachments for many kinds of work.
Actually a small box blade or ditching bucket with another cyl to swivel would be ideal for cleaning out ditches and general land prep.
Actually a small box blade or ditching bucket with another cyl to swivel would be ideal for cleaning out ditches and general land prep.
You MIGHT be able to use SOME implements - but 7 or 8 ft out is a LONG WAY on a lever.
I can imagine the sort of effect on a rear blade when angled and trying to drag gravel - even only 6 ft out there... I think it would "Steer Ya around" more than a bit.
What might work out better is a SSQA to 3pt adapter that allows the use of 3pt implements on the front of any tractor or skid steer with the Skid Steer Quick Attach (SSQA).
I have one, I use it with a rake, LIGHTLY with a back blade, with a sub-soiler for picking at roots, when the rear end of all other tractors are "occupied" with other implements and it is inconvenient to change them.
It can be very handy to have 3 pt capability at front and rear of the same tractor - or in your case just at the front.
Not all tasks work out in reverse and those that do don't work out for all operators, i.e. a lot of folk have back and neck problems and doing operations in reverse is problematic for them.
That said, for some tasks, some implements, it works, though not the way to go on 8 or 10 hour tasks if you have neck or back problems.
I can imagine the sort of effect on a rear blade when angled and trying to drag gravel - even only 6 ft out there... I think it would "Steer Ya around" more than a bit.
What might work out better is a SSQA to 3pt adapter that allows the use of 3pt implements on the front of any tractor or skid steer with the Skid Steer Quick Attach (SSQA).
I have one, I use it with a rake, LIGHTLY with a back blade, with a sub-soiler for picking at roots, when the rear end of all other tractors are "occupied" with other implements and it is inconvenient to change them.
It can be very handy to have 3 pt capability at front and rear of the same tractor - or in your case just at the front.
Not all tasks work out in reverse and those that do don't work out for all operators, i.e. a lot of folk have back and neck problems and doing operations in reverse is problematic for them.
That said, for some tasks, some implements, it works, though not the way to go on 8 or 10 hour tasks if you have neck or back problems.
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I don't know much about this stuff, but my initial thought was that back hoes are designed for push/pull force. Extend, dig down, and pull.
If you have a box blade on there and drag it around a corner, you will put a lot of side force on the back hoe arm. It probably would hold up, but you would likely shorten the life of any pivot hardware.
How about a drag attachment for a 3ph box blade?
http://www.bageindustries.com/pics/ATV/3pth.jpg
Home build of course. No need for the electric actuator... Adjustable top link and go for it.
Doug
If you have a box blade on there and drag it around a corner, you will put a lot of side force on the back hoe arm. It probably would hold up, but you would likely shorten the life of any pivot hardware.
How about a drag attachment for a 3ph box blade?
http://www.bageindustries.com/pics/ATV/3pth.jpg
Home build of course. No need for the electric actuator... Adjustable top link and go for it.
Doug
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Well I have a mini-backhoe I made myself and I was thinking about attaching my small garden plow on the bucket somehow to make shallow trench for a drain pipe. (My tractor has a 3 point but backhoe is a chore to remove). I read many of the post but never got a good idea as to how you wanted the 3 pt to work.
On the backhoe as in place of the bucket or attached to the tractor extending out behind the boom sort of like what it would have been if designed for it. I can see where the three point might extend out behind a little more then normal but don't see any problem. The top link would attache to under side of backhoe boom. Boom should be locked in place and hydraulic controls locked out. Don't know if lift arms could be left in place when swinging boom depends on room...however the lift arms would be easy to remove when not needed.
Just thinking while typeing. oops spell checker does not work oh! well!
Homemade backhoe
Homemade 3 point
Highly modified Shaw N5
Homemade FEL not finished
kcshawman - Flickr: Cari
On the backhoe as in place of the bucket or attached to the tractor extending out behind the boom sort of like what it would have been if designed for it. I can see where the three point might extend out behind a little more then normal but don't see any problem. The top link would attache to under side of backhoe boom. Boom should be locked in place and hydraulic controls locked out. Don't know if lift arms could be left in place when swinging boom depends on room...however the lift arms would be easy to remove when not needed.
Just thinking while typeing. oops spell checker does not work oh! well!
Homemade backhoe
Homemade 3 point
Highly modified Shaw N5
Homemade FEL not finished
kcshawman - Flickr: Cari
