3 pt lift has 5 second delay

Canada_CT230 · Mar 7, 2012

I wouldn't give up yet. I know it is frustrating but don't give up so easily and keep your blood pressure low.

They are not junk metal tractors. I have over 266 hours on my CT230 and not had any major issues.

I am sure when you find the problem you'll slap your head because of the cause.

You'll be taking a $ hit on trade and over-paying for Kubota and you'll end up with a tractor that has the same reliability rate as this one.

Keep researching. Maybe call some Kioti dealerships and tell them you have a CK35. They may have more tech issue knowledge than a newer BC dealer.

k0ua · Mar 7, 2012

Rudevette said:
The delay was actually 28 seconds when I timed it. Then it went to longer than that then no 3 point lift at all.

OK I will start by my qualifications in the hydraulic arena.. NONE.. so now that is out of the way, but, I still have an opinion. If there is fluid flow from the power beyond port on the FEL control valve, and it is not restricted in some way, and then that passes to the hydraulic connection block on the tractor, and maybe goes to a rear control valve and thru it if it is not activated, and I don't know if you have one or not, but the next and final stop is the 3pt control valve assembly which control fluid flow to the 3pt lift cylinder. So we know that the 3pt cylinder does not lift at all now, and it was getting progressively worse and worse. right? We know that if the 3pt cylinder is getting fluid flow from the 3pt valve then it MUST lift, unless it is just dumping fluid back to the tank due to a leak.. right? so we either have a restriction from the Power Beyond port, or somewhere along that path or a big internal leak along that hydraulic path. It is just a matter of finding the problem. I know this is probably not much help, and you may think me an A** for even posting this, but to me this is a simple logic tree type of problem, and divide and conquer logic and diagnostics should be able to nail this down. If you trade tractors the problem goes away, and you are out a bunch of money, They fix it for a couple of hours of shop time and maybe some parts. and make a heck of a profit off of you. It is your tractor and you will have to do what you see fit, and I know you are angry, but this is like any other broken thing, it can be fixed. And I am betting it can be fixed for a lot less than a trade in.. Again I don't mean to be in your business, but I am offering a lifetime of logic in fixing things, even tho in this particular field I have no experience. I wish you the best of luck

James K0UA

Rudevette · Mar 10, 2012

Here is what I found. I tore that MLS apart and had it so unbelievably clean so many times I could do it in my sleep. My dad (who used to be a mechanic), the local tractor mechanic, or myself couldn't find any problems. So after getting good and frustrated I starting driving it out of the shop with the snowblower dragging on the ground and the 3 point lever in the up position to put it away in the other shed the snowblower just went up and works perfectly. It appears as though after rebuilding this valve it takes awhile to prime that circuit with oil so that it will work again. The manual should note that someplace.

Thanks for the help and encouragement everybody.
(BTW, the day that tractor broke down the oil pump seal blew out of my camry, and I shifted my 4 wheeler with less than 300 miles on it into first gear and the shift arm inside the transmission broke...... all that within 36 hours )

k0ua · Mar 10, 2012

Rudevette said:
Here is what I found. I tore that MLS apart and had it so unbelievably clean so many times I could do it in my sleep. My dad (who used to be a mechanic), the local tractor mechanic, or myself couldn't find any problems. So after getting good and frustrated I starting driving it out of the shop with the snowblower dragging on the ground and the 3 point lever in the up position to put it away in the other shed the snowblower just went up and works perfectly. It appears as though after rebuilding this valve it takes awhile to prime that circuit with oil so that it will work again. The manual should note that someplace.

Thanks for the help and encouragement everybody.
(BTW, the day that tractor broke down the oil pump seal blew out of my camry, and I shifted my 4 wheeler with less than 300 miles on it into first gear and the shift arm inside the transmission broke...... all that within 36 hours )

I am glad you got it fixed instead of trading it off. And I am guessing what with 3 broken things in 36 hours, you are probably done with broken things maybe for the rest of the year

Take care and happy tractoring.

James K0UA