3 pt on float

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RalphVa

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JD 2025R, previously Gravely 5650 & JD 4010 & JD 1025R
I guess they'll show me when they deliver my 4010, but I'm wondering how to put the 3 pt on float? Somehow, the bush hog needs to stay down whether I go up a little rise or down into a trough. Figure putting the 3 pt on float does this.

Do you adjust it and then open the speed-of-drop valve all the way to get it on float? The manual says about tightening the valve to lock it in place. Figure the reverse must be float. Right?

I've been reading the on-line manual.

Ralph
 
   / 3 pt on float #2  
I believe you'll find your 3PH is strictly a gravity system with no down pressure (other then the weight of the implement).

That'll be plenty too...in fact, you may have to set the rockshaft lever a bit higher if you're using a blade or other ground engaging implements. Otherwise, you'll set there spinning.

On my 790, there is an adjustable stop for that rockshaft (3PH) lever so you can control the depth of cut to a degree.

I'm pretty sure only the bigger utility tractors (not a CUT) have any kind of hydraulic down pressure on the 3PH.

As far as the rate of drop knob..I adjust it so the implement drops smoothly, but not so fast. For me, this is a bit of a safety thing as well as being easier on an implement. I've never used the knob to hold an implement in the raised position, but the Deere manual says you can... but not so you can woirk under that implement!! (without jackstands anyway)!!!

As far as keeping your cutter or rear mower on the ground...you'll have to adjust the top link long enough to prevent lifting as you go over a rise. That just takes a little experimentation to find what works best for you.

Enjoy your tractor!
 
   / 3 pt on float #3  
The best float (IMO) for a hog is to have a chain in place of the top link (or in place of the steel straps that go to the back of the hog). Then adjust the chain so the 3pt picks up the hog and is only short enough to keep the PTO shaft from contacting the front edge of the deck.
 
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It finally dawned on me last night.

The upper leg of the 3 pt is adjusted to level the cutter.

Then I guess you leave the jack shaft fully down to get it to float.

Ralph
 
   / 3 pt on float #5  
"The upper leg of the 3 pt is adjusted to level the cutter."

That's the upper link..and, yep, leave it fairly loose when operating...shorten it for lifting for transporting.
I've never replaced the upper link with a chain..some guys do. Never had a problem mowing or brush cutting with the top link extended. But, that is an option if you need more travel.

Just watch that your PTO shaft doesn't hit the mower deck when raised. If that happens, just don't raise it quite as high.
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( The upper leg of the 3 pt is adjusted to level the cutter.

Then I guess you leave the jack shaft fully down to get it to float.)</font>

The first sentence is correct, adjust the toplink to make sure the front of the blade's plane cuts lower than the rear. About an inch is about right.
Then set your 3pt depending on how close you want to cut. This is also dependent on where you set your tailwheel. If your pastures are clean and level, you can cut fairly low (2-3) but the rougher they are the higher you'll want your cutter.
 
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Ralph,

I'm not sure about other manufacturers' models, but mine (6-ft Bush Hog) has a slotted, pivoting linkage at the top link of the cutter. That linkage allows you to keep slack in your top link while you're mowing. The top link should be entirely slack during normal mowing -- and there should be enough slack in the connection to allow the cutter to tip forward and rearward as you go over hills and through dips. When you lift the cutter for transport, the first couple of inches raises only the front of the deck until the slack is gone from the top link, and then the tail wheel comes off the ground.

The manufacturer claims there could be a safety issue in using a chain for the top link. If the front edge of the mower happened to snag on a large rock or stump, it could theoretically cause the mower to pivot around the lift arm pins -- raising the tail wheel and deck up overhead and into the operator area. I don't know how likely that risk is, but I thought I'd mention it.

Setting the cutting height is a combination of two steps:

1) setting the rockshaft so that the lower 3pt hitch arms hold the front of the cutter at the appropriate height on a level surface, and

2) adjusting the tail wheel so that the rear of the cutter is 1-2" higher than the front.

Of course, the actual process goes in the reverse once you're familiar with it -- first adjust the tail wheel to about 1-2" higher than you want to cut (hard to do without lifting the cutter to take weight off of the tail wheel), then adjust the rockshaft lever so that the front of the mower is at your desired cutting height. You can then set your rockshaft level stop at that point so you can return to that height after each time you pick up the mower. What I'm trying to describe is that "leveling" your cutter is accomplished by adjusting only the lift arms and the tail wheel -- with the top link slack.

Although the manufacturer recommends setting the rear of the cutter 1-2" higher than the front for easiest cutting, I reverse that arrangement when cutting at a height of 3" or less. With the front of the cutter less than 3" off the ground, the front edges of the cutter tend to bite into the ground as it swings sideways when making turns across uneven terrain. By raising the front of the cutter to about 4-5 inches, the problem goes away. I can still maintain the 3" cutting height by setting the tail wheel so that the rear of the cutter is at 3". The tail wheel and the rounded shape of the deck in back keep the rear from carving up the ground during turns. Of course, this method takes more horsepower and uses more fuel (each bit of grass gets cut multiple times as the cutter passes over), and it's unnecessary if your land is nice and smooth.

I notice you're from Charlottesville -- I'm about 45 minutes east of you. Nice to have a neighbor with the same kinds of tractor questions I have.

Parker
 

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