3PT Hydraulic Level Neutral Position

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rmc

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BX2200
When I raise my 3PT Hitch on my BX2200, the hydraulics bring the implement up but the pumps continues to pump until I move the control back to the neutral position. According to the manual

" Hydraulic control level is automatically returned to the neutral position when the implement is raised at top position or down at lowest position"

Is it normal to have to move the level by hand back to nuetral or do I have a problem? Is sounds from the manual that the level should go back to neutral without my hand.

Any ideas.
 
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rmc,

I have occasionally observed the same thing with my BX2200. I have just over 50 hours on it now. However, I also notice that the time it takes to return to the neutral position varies some with engine speed. I would say that mine returns to the neutral position about 80% of the time and it seems to return more consistently and quicker at lower engine speeds. It probably has something to do with the adjustment of the hydralic bypass but I'm not sure about that. Hope this helps.

TomPh
 
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TomPH

That helps mine never returns to neutral position.

Looks like a call to the Dealer.

Thanks
 
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The lever returns to neutral only when the 3 PT reaches the full down position. If you are using a MMM, for example, and have the cut height set at anything other than 0.0, the lever will not center. If you look in the owners manual, there is an adjustment on the feedback arm that centers the lever. You can adjust it yourself if you feel qualified.

paul
 
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I'm pretty sure it's "supposed" to return to center in both the down and up position. However, realistically after they get a few hours on them they tend to get out of adjustment. It's not the greatest set-up. The feed back link has a spring on either side and is adjustable. I have found that if you set it up to return to neutral in both positions it lasts a little while then starts to malfunction. You can set it up to get good positive return in up or down position but it seems to be a sensitive balancing act to get both. Now unless Kubota comes up with a better way, I prefer to set it up to get a positive return from the up position being that this is the position that will allow the pump to run over relief if it does'nt return. Returning to neutral from the lowered position just is'nt that important being that the deck is suspended by the stop and not the hitch hyd's. and is basically in a float position not building pressure.
 
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Mine wouldn't return to neutral from the raising position. The problem turned out to be that the lever was rubbing on the black plastic surround on the fender. There was just enough friction to prevent the lever from returning, and adjusting the sring wouldn't overcome it. A little bending of the lever to place it in the center of the slot, and problem solved.
 
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Thanks for the inputs. Just to make sure I am adjusting the proper item. The Feedback Rod has two springs with two nuts. In order to get it to return to neutral from raising I would need more tension on the spring next to the two nuts and not next to the locker.

Will also look into making sure the level it not being efected by any plastic parts

Thanks again.
 
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Techman is correct, if the MMM or other implement does not reach full down the lever will not return, if at the top position it does not return an adjustment is required to the rod with the spring on it. J
 
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Spray your linkage with a good penetrating oil before you do any adjustments. These linkages need to be lubricated periodically and will freeze up if you don't. Most likely this is the case, as it appears that it worked correctly before. Remember, if the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy!/w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif
 
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WD40 is a friend.. Use it........ If you feel it is because of the plastic housing on the fender area, trim the burr's a bit with a utility knife. If you feel it just needs a little lube, up top, use a little vasoline. That stuff works on body parts and equipment....... So I am told.....

Of course, like mentioned, just a little bend to center it in the plastic housing may do the trick if that is out of whack.

Mine returns, going up or down, just fine...... However, it has paused and then returned. You can hear it squeel a bit some time then return...........

Tom

Tom
 
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rmc,

Mine almost never returns at the bottom, but always does at the top unless the engine is at a complete idle. Then, it sometimes takes it a few seconds, but once you hear the relief go, it usually returns on its own. I've got a little under 30 hours on it, and it's behaved that way from the start. As somebody else mentioned, I don't think it hurts anything at the bottom because there's no pressure built up.

Kevin
 
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Cup149

Looks like I have the same problem with the black plastic. Used WD40 on the plastic and it moved, put pressure to the side of the black plastic and it returned to the neutral position. The level needs to be bent so that it is in the center of the slot in the black plastic. TBN memebers supply another fix

Thanks for ALL the inputs.
 
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I wish the BX2200 had a stop device in the plastic top that I could use so I could stop the box scapper at the desired level every time.

Guess I should have bought a tool that could do that. The old Ferguson had it......

Other than that and looking over the shoulder all the time I am happy... Tom
 
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That would be called Position Control. This is available on the larger B2410, the BX nor the B7500 have that feature unfortunately. J
 

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