3rd function valve kit

KYDan · Mar 4, 2015

If you google the third function valve kit #380-166A you should get a hit to an Adobe file that you can download. The hangar I mentioned is shown in figure 5 and is labeled "E". You can see the plate that is welded to the loader lift arm. This is the 1065 loader I think that is offered with the MX5200 series tractors. The plate and the hangar are on the current loader. Older models don't have it. I plan to drill the loader arm and thread it so I can attach the hanger bracket. Everything else in the file is included with the kit. Good Luck!

MtnViewRanch · Mar 4, 2015

Oldpath05 said:
I look through this thread twice, did I miss it or did you pull the trigger yet, myself I'm still looking at the gun to see if I can afford the bullets. I didn't see the answer to the question ether, so right now my choice is the 3rd function setup from (Construction Attachments) because I like the looks of their control grip better, and the selling point for me is the 3 part step by step setup video on YouTube, on a Kubota tractor like mine L3400. I now have to find where these kits are sold so I can get a price.

I did see one post about the 3rd function control kit from (Everything Attachments) with no YouTube videos on installment, but looked like a satisfied customer anyways. Not sure what everyone is using the control for, but for me I want to get a thumb grapple on my bucket, now back to looking for a good online $$ and who sells them.

I am surprised that you like the control grip for your style of loader joystick. Are you thinking about doing this (see picture) so that the grip is properly oriented?

Oldpath05 · Mar 5, 2015

MtnViewRanch said:
I am surprised that you like the control grip for your style of loader joystick. Are you thinking about doing this (see picture) so that the grip is properly oriented?

As Gomer would say, surprise surprise surprise, I just dated myself. On this part 2 video at around 5:30, they show the handle stile that looks user friendly for me, and the video is showing a tractor like mine, L3400, if not the same. I like the control buttons at a thumbs reach, and I'm not sure but it looks like the same one you show or very similar in your picture, so what brand control grip are you showing, and/or where you'd get it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0j7V_JuUrE&list=PL9UNHqTsC1a8bi07UtL-z5bdphpdhmTFB&index=3

Oldpath05 · Mar 5, 2015

KYDan said:
If you google the third function valve kit #380-166A you should get a hit to an Adobe file that you can download. The hangar I mentioned is shown in figure 5 and is labeled "E". You can see the plate that is welded to the loader lift arm. This is the 1065 loader I think that is offered with the MX5200 series tractors. The plate and the hangar are on the current loader. Older models don't have it. I plan to drill the loader arm and thread it so I can attach the hanger bracket. Everything else in the file is included with the kit. Good Luck!

Gotcha, If I had your $$ I'd some how convince my wife that I had to buy the newer model tractor because my old wore out tractor doesn't have that plate welded on the loader, if she said no. I'd probably tack/weld a couple nuts on instead paying $40.00 for that little plate. I looked at the control valve ***. in figure 1, and it looks like it sticks out beyond the loader mount more than the one does on the (Construction Attachment) site video, maybe there's another mounting option, and I don't think I'd like the 3rd. function buttons on the side of the nob ether, I have vertical thumbs so I like buttons on top, but it's
better than no buttons. When you get this 3rd function kit hooked up, show us some pictures of it and the attachment your going to use it on, some sort of auger isn't it.
PS. good luck with the snow that I didn't get.

MtnViewRanch · Mar 5, 2015

It is a Scorpion grip, they come from Canada, one of the various items that I sell. But these grips need to be more vertical than what they would be at mounted on the std loader joystick. ( about 45* that the std Kubota L model joysticks are at) Thus the replacement S shape joystick to get the grip in a better user friendly position.

countrybumpkin · Mar 5, 2015

Here is how I mounted mine , it had the round rubber knob like in the video. This way is very comfortable and really easy to operate.

Oldpath05 · Mar 6, 2015

countrybumpkin said:
Here is how I mounted mine , it had the round rubber knob like in the video. This way is very comfortable and really easy to operate.

Must be a Cal Smith fan to. Looks like it's welded on, I see a button on top for opening and closing a grapple and a trigger for a grenade launcher, awesome, where 'd you get your 3rd function setup. In this world wide web I found only two easy ordering web sites for a 3rd. function setup, ( Everything Attachments) and ( Idaho Implements).

countrybumpkin · Mar 6, 2015

The button on top closed the grapple while the trigger opened it. I bought the pieces and put it all together myself, the handle had a 1/2" shaft about 1 1/2 long that sticks out of the bottom that the cable runs through, so i found a short piece of 1/4" wall tube with a 1/2" I.D. And tapped it for two small set screws. Welded the tube to the loader stick and slid the handle in and tightened set screws.

fulks19 · May 26, 2015

I got a disappointment today. I have had an old Ford 850 tractor for forty years. I just bought a new John Deere 3038E and have really enjoyed it. I decided to buy a grapple for it and it turns out that I can not put the functions of the grapple on the FEL controller. The controls will be beside the seat ... meaning to open and close the jaws of the grapple I will have to move from the FEL controller to the grapple/jaws controller beside the seat. Had I realized this, I might have opted for a different tractor. Are there any work-arounds for this so all controls can be on the FEL joystick? I know it is a minor issue but an issue I would rather not deal with.

kennyd · May 26, 2015

fulks19 said:
I got a disappointment today. I have had an old Ford 850 tractor for forty years. I just bought a new John Deere 3038E and have really enjoyed it. I decided to buy a grapple for it and it turns out that I can not put the functions of the grapple on the FEL controller. The controls will be beside the seat ... meaning to open and close the jaws of the grapple I will have to move from the FEL controller to the grapple/jaws controller beside the seat. Had I realized this, I might have opted for a different tractor. Are there any work-arounds for this so all controls can be on the FEL joystick? I know it is a minor issue but an issue I would rather not deal with.

You told you this? This is true if you use Deere's 3rd SCV'rear remote kit, but you can get the WR Long 3rd function kit that would have switches on your joystick. Unfortunately the 305 loader won't support a diverter setup well becasue of the 3-way valve JD has used on them, but a true 3rd function kit will not be an issue.