Guys, was using my tractor today to dig a hole in Sand - Was going back and fourth - Heard a grinding noise near the left tire - Got stuck - 4WD doesn't seem to be working - I ran a quick search here, didn't see much info regarding broken 4WD - Where do I start?
4 WD Broke - 2210
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MJPetersen
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I certainly would not drive it any more until I knew what was wrong. There are a lot of expensive and hard to find parts in the front drive of these units. And further churning pieces of bearing, gear or even a roll pin in between gears cannot be good for them.
Second, lift the front end off the ground and rotate say your LF tire. Does the right front rotate too, even in the opposite direction? It should if things are still connected between the two. How does it feel? Smooth with some resistance? or like it is all by itself? With one front tire blocked and the transmission in 4wd you should not even be able to turn the front unblocked tire. Try with the other front tire blocked. With those tests then you probably can identify where the problem is located. From there you need a parts manual and repair, if it is the same front drive as yours. (I found out the front drive of the 186 is very different from my 1510).
Best of luck with it.
Mike
Second, lift the front end off the ground and rotate say your LF tire. Does the right front rotate too, even in the opposite direction? It should if things are still connected between the two. How does it feel? Smooth with some resistance? or like it is all by itself? With one front tire blocked and the transmission in 4wd you should not even be able to turn the front unblocked tire. Try with the other front tire blocked. With those tests then you probably can identify where the problem is located. From there you need a parts manual and repair, if it is the same front drive as yours. (I found out the front drive of the 186 is very different from my 1510).
Best of luck with it.
Mike
When the front is lifted up and I turn the left tire the other tire turns - It feels and sounds real smooth. I then blocked the right tire and was unable to turn the left tire, but I forgot to switch and try blocking the left tire.
I think the problem is somewhere in a gear near the left rear tire where the 4WD engagement lever is - That's where I heard some grinding.
I think the problem is somewhere in a gear near the left rear tire where the 4WD engagement lever is - That's where I heard some grinding.
kzack
Member
rgood,
Does the 4WD lever have tension on it or does it just 'flop' back and forth? The little tab on part #49 is easily bent or broken and you will lose the ability to shift into 4WD.
Keith
Does the 4WD lever have tension on it or does it just 'flop' back and forth? The little tab on part #49 is easily bent or broken and you will lose the ability to shift into 4WD.
Keith
kzack
Member
MJPetersen
Veteran Member
From what you said, it sounds like the front axle is ok. That limits the problem to the engagement mechanism or engaging gears. If it feels normal in the engagement, I am at a loss. I am not familiar with this tractor or system. Kzack has an interesting thing if there are known problems in this area it might warrant a look. If not, try to investigate where you heard the sound. open something so that yo can see inside. You might also drop the oil and fish around with a magnet to see if you find any pieces.
Mike
Mike
You might check to see if the drive shaft is connected at both ends. The front of my drive shaft popped off th eother day and made a loud grinding, rubbing noise. When I dropped the housing one end was laying in the housing and making a real racket. If you dropped the rear end of the shaft I could see the noise coming from the area of the 4WD selector. I couldn't ID where my noise was coming from just by listening. It kind of vibrated through everything.
Hope this helps. It's an easy fix it that is the problem.
Pisgah Forest, NC
Yanmar 1500D
Hope this helps. It's an easy fix it that is the problem.
Pisgah Forest, NC
Yanmar 1500D
Got the tractor fixed - I didn't fix it - Took it to a local shop - Problem was where the main drive shaft connected to the small "Drop down" drive shaft the parts were worn and the shaft would slip.
Hoye Tractor did a great job of locating the parts
- But they were not cheap
Hoye Tractor did a great job of locating the parts
- But they were not cheap