Hello, I have a 4110 with 150 hrs I have had very good service with this tractor so far. I use it primarly with a 6ft med duty bush hog in temps in the 80's. I would be very interested in the engine oil others have used, I understand synthetic is not recomended? also has anyone had a overheating issue? I believe I need to do a through radiator cleaning because there does not appear to be a lot of airflow comming through it now, also my model has the battery that covers the bottom 20% or so of the radiator I understand Mahindra has a kit with a new battery pan that lowers the battery has anyone installed yet? Thanks sorry for all of the newby ?'s
Oil & Fuel 4110 Oil and overheating
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DieselPower
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Where did you hear synthetic oil is not recomended?
skipmarcy
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Welcome. You'll get all kinds of opinions on what oil to use, I use Shell Rotella in my tractor and my diesel truck both. Synthetics - personally I think it's a waste of money if your engine is operating like it's supposed to - that is not overheating or dumping fuel etc. and you service your engine at the recommended intervals. You want to toss extra money away at service time, the synthetic oil won't hurt anything but it's not going to improve anything either, no matter what anybody hawks about it.
I don't see how you can lower the battery in the 4110 nor why you would need to, it doesn't hurt the airflow to the radiator - you'll get the same amount of debris with or without the battery sitting where it is. You should at least blow the radiator clean with compressed air after just a couple hours of cutting unless it is fairly wet when you're cutting. The radiator will catch the small chaff real quick when dry and you won't be able to see it - it is embedded inbetween the fins thru the core. You'll see it when you blow it out though. The screen in front of the radiator is only effective for large debris - do not use it's condition as an indication of your radiator core's condition. Besides using shop air to blow out the core (in both directions by the way) you should every so often use a good pressure washer and clean in both directions too. I usually take the screens & battery out to do a thorough pressure cleaning. It doesn't take much stuff in there to raise the temp. quite a bit on the temp. gauge and it's worse when it's dry and the weeds are in seed - sage grass is some of the worst. Also, make sure you keep your alt. belt good & tight too so the fan doesn't slip.
I don't see how you can lower the battery in the 4110 nor why you would need to, it doesn't hurt the airflow to the radiator - you'll get the same amount of debris with or without the battery sitting where it is. You should at least blow the radiator clean with compressed air after just a couple hours of cutting unless it is fairly wet when you're cutting. The radiator will catch the small chaff real quick when dry and you won't be able to see it - it is embedded inbetween the fins thru the core. You'll see it when you blow it out though. The screen in front of the radiator is only effective for large debris - do not use it's condition as an indication of your radiator core's condition. Besides using shop air to blow out the core (in both directions by the way) you should every so often use a good pressure washer and clean in both directions too. I usually take the screens & battery out to do a thorough pressure cleaning. It doesn't take much stuff in there to raise the temp. quite a bit on the temp. gauge and it's worse when it's dry and the weeds are in seed - sage grass is some of the worst. Also, make sure you keep your alt. belt good & tight too so the fan doesn't slip.
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NetworkMD said:
Kinda of figured it had to have come from a mechanic. Having been a mechanic myself for years I learned one thing, they don't teach you much if anything at all about engine oil in training, service manuals or school. It's a sad fact but you never hear much about the life blood of any piece of equipment, the oil.
Synthetic or synthetic blend oils will not harm your equipment in any way, void warranty's or make the sky fall. They do however offer better temperature operating ranges, better shear stability, better water demulsability, better oxidation stability and with a properly implemented UOA (used oil analysis) program help to extend drain intervals.
Probably the best advice is to stick with a good name brand oil, conventional or synthetic. Many people here use Shell Rotella, Mobil and Chevron Dello along with many others that use synthetic's. If your looking for the best money can buy then look to manufacturers like Amsoil, Schaeffers, Lubricant Engineers (LE) and Texas Refinery Corp. (TRC).
I will submit another vote for Rotella. I have the battery blocking a significant part of the radiator too, but have never had overheating issues. If your cutting mostly grasses you will plug the radiator fast.Since you mentioned the battery, and in case you haven't done it yet, disconnect your ground wire from the frame and scrape the paint off under it. It is very embarrasing when a fairly new tractor refuse to start in front of deere fans (mine did around 150 hrs).
Dougster
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I've got a vintage 10/2004 4110 and my battery is not covering any of the radiator. In fact, the top of the battery appears to be exactly even with the bottom of the radiator as best I can tell. No flow is blocked at all since the battery sits below the lowest hood air inlets. On the other hand, the air filter housing and horn are right in the way!NetworkMD said:
Do I already have this lower battery pan? Or is that lower 20% you are talking about sitting behind my battery and I don't even know it?
Dougster
My serial number is 4110X02****. I think X = 2004 and 02 is Feb. So mine is a 2/04 tractor. I will look at my battery box tonight. I know it is pushed up some right now from a tree tipping incident, but I should be able to figure out where it was before.Dougster said:I've got a vintage 10/2004 4110 and my battery is not covering any of the radiator. In fact, the top of the battery appears to be exactly even with the bottom of the radiator as best I can tell. No flow is blocked at all since the battery sits below the lowest hood air inlets. On the other hand, the air filter housing and horn are right in the way!
Do I already have this lower battery pan? Or is that lower 20% you are talking about sitting behind my battery and I don't even know it?
Dougster
Thank you all, LOL on the horn I replaced mine with a louder car horn also. My Mahindra is a 2003 model which has the taller battery box that causes the battery to block about 20% or more of the bottom of the radiator. I talked to Mario at Bills Tractor in TX they have the newer battery drop kit for around $100 so the battery will be lowered so the top is at the bottom of the radiator making it much easier to clean, I went ahead and ordered it is worth it to me to keep the radiator cleaner.
Thanks for the advice on the negative battery cable, I also like the Rotella which I use in all my diesel fleet we use almost no gasoline.
Thanks for the advice on the negative battery cable, I also like the Rotella which I use in all my diesel fleet we use almost no gasoline.
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When I am mowing with any tractor I've gotten into the habit of coming back to the shed every two hours and blowing out the radiator with my air compressor. Even this time of year when there are very few seeds it's amazing how much stuff gets collected and the dirt that flies out.
I am a synthetic blend user (Texas Refinery) and am pleased with the results but to each their own.
I am a synthetic blend user (Texas Refinery) and am pleased with the results but to each their own.
MLinOleMiss
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Pull the screens off of the front of the radiator and go to your local appliance parts store and buy a can of air conditioner coil cleaner (the foaming kind) and spray the radiator really well from both sides, let it sit and then use either compressed air or a pressure washer and spray the radiator first from back to front and then front to back. I would have bet the title to my 4110 that the radiator was clean until I did this. Average running temp hovered between 5/8 and 3/4 until I did this, it now stays between 1/4 and 1/3 and that was 5 hours in 89 degree weather with a 6 foot cutter for the first cutting of the summer.
Thanks for the spray cleaner advice, I am sure thats my problem I had been using air and THOUGHT my radiator was clean, I let the tractor run and placed a shop towel on the front of the radiator and it bearly stuck very little air movement it is amaizing it is running as cool as it is. Thanks for the great Info, great forum.
Oleozz said:
I wonder if there might be a way to mount a screen door type screen to the outside front of the tractor; using the screen only when mowing. I'm thinking from inside and will have to look at tractor tomorrowto see if there is something that might strike me as possible to do some good. There would always be mount screen with the old duct tape trick. Too hard on paint though.
Might be worth thinking about, but mowing on early damp mornings seems to work ok.
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