My dealer claims for my L3130 that the 50 hour service isn't necessary and that if I wait till 100 hrs he'll send someone out to do the service and I'll pay parts only. It doesn't sound right to wait that long - anyone else heard anything like this? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
50 Hour Service Not Needed?
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Luremaker
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My dealer told me that the 50 hour service was the most important service to have done. He recommeded that I not do the 50 hour service myself and have the dealership do it. He also said they would do a complete check on everything else at the same time.. After that he said it did not matter who did it, dealer or me.
NIXON
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JMHO . But, I'd suspect that the 50hr. service is one of, if not the most important service. There are most likely a lot of bits of metal floating around in your oil and trans fluid , if for no other reason than the break in process let alone the machining . John
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Here's my 2 cents worth on the 50hr service. When the tractor is new and fresh off of the assembly line,some of the parts inside still have casting,machine,flashing marks etc. on them. As these pieces work and mesh together they grind and polish themselves, leaving metal particles and shavings floating in your oil to be picked up by your oil filter and strained out. The amount of metal that's floating around(especially in the trans), is rather alarming but normal. If you're mechanically inclined at all I would recommend doing the 50hr service yourself so you can see what is going on with your tractor. It will give you a good picture to judge your future services by knowing what is normal should one of the later oil changes suddenly have a significant amount of extra metal show up in it.
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It always amazes me when someone claims to know more than the tractor manufacturer...
I will bet if you check your manual it does tell you that a 50 hour service is required...
Why should the dealer care if you wait till 100 hours or do the service at 50 hours? Won't take any longer for his man in either case.
Remember, 50 clock hours could be 75 or 80 hours of seat time.
Now I will confess that I might have went a little over 50 hours on my BX before I did the 50 hours service, but that was because the BX hour meter is not tach driven and actually measures real time hours. Whereas the other tractor hour meter is tach driven and counts slower than real time, except when I run the tractor at 540 PTO RPM. Yet both call for 50-hour services.
Bottom line, if you are planning on keeping your tractor a long time, why risk it and skimp on the first service, when all the first service really is, is a couple oil and filter changes anyway.
No big deal...I would just do it and feel good about it.
I will bet if you check your manual it does tell you that a 50 hour service is required...
Why should the dealer care if you wait till 100 hours or do the service at 50 hours? Won't take any longer for his man in either case.
Remember, 50 clock hours could be 75 or 80 hours of seat time.
Now I will confess that I might have went a little over 50 hours on my BX before I did the 50 hours service, but that was because the BX hour meter is not tach driven and actually measures real time hours. Whereas the other tractor hour meter is tach driven and counts slower than real time, except when I run the tractor at 540 PTO RPM. Yet both call for 50-hour services.
Bottom line, if you are planning on keeping your tractor a long time, why risk it and skimp on the first service, when all the first service really is, is a couple oil and filter changes anyway.
No big deal...I would just do it and feel good about it.
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That's exactly what my dealer told me. Apart from the service, he said he just wanted to make sure everything was still "tight". After that, he didn't see it until 800 hours when the valve clearances had to be checked. I too would have thought that the 50 hour service was probably the most important one to do for all the reasons that others have given.
That's exactly what my dealer told me. Apart from the service, he said he just wanted to make sure everything was still "tight". After that, he didn't see it until 800 hours when the valve clearances had to be checked. I too would have thought that the 50 hour service was probably the most important one to do for all the reasons that others have given.
theboman
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50 hour service is very important in my opinion. The metal shavings...get them out of the block.... Tranny...
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He's totally nutz and could very easily deny all your future warranty coverage if you cannot prove that the 50 hour service was carried out properly.
btolle
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I have a new BX2230 that should be delivered tomorrow or Monday. I had them include the 50 hours service in the sale price.
When the salesman asked the service manager what it cost he told him $140 but said he normally did NOT change the transmission fluid, just the filter and add some fluid. Of course they change the engine oil.
The service manager also said he would not void the warranty because of not changing the trans oil. He said the filter would have caught any trash. He has been there for years and I expect he will be there long after I am gone so I am OK with it. One thing I like about that dealership is the service manager doesn't try to sell you anything unless he really thinks you need it.
One possible hazard would be if you later had a problem and took it to another dealer and could not show proof that the 50 hour service had been done they could use that as an excuse to void the warranty.
I would go ahead and do the 50 hour service so there won't be any questions in the future since the warranty requires that it be done.
Bill Tolle
When the salesman asked the service manager what it cost he told him $140 but said he normally did NOT change the transmission fluid, just the filter and add some fluid. Of course they change the engine oil.
The service manager also said he would not void the warranty because of not changing the trans oil. He said the filter would have caught any trash. He has been there for years and I expect he will be there long after I am gone so I am OK with it. One thing I like about that dealership is the service manager doesn't try to sell you anything unless he really thinks you need it.
One possible hazard would be if you later had a problem and took it to another dealer and could not show proof that the 50 hour service had been done they could use that as an excuse to void the warranty.
I would go ahead and do the 50 hour service so there won't be any questions in the future since the warranty requires that it be done.
Bill Tolle
I did a 50 hour on my Kubota RTV yesterday. I think it's the same engine as the BX2230 but don't know about the tranny.
Not that the RTV is what we're talking about, I wanted to throw in my 2 cents.
The tranny fluid was as clean as the day it was put in. The drain plug has a magnet. Mine was absolutely covered with metal shavings. Others (Dargo) had so much stuff collected in the tranny's filter that the machine didn't operate correctly. I think he was a little under 50 hours.
I would recommend doing the 50 hour service.
Not that the RTV is what we're talking about, I wanted to throw in my 2 cents.
The tranny fluid was as clean as the day it was put in. The drain plug has a magnet. Mine was absolutely covered with metal shavings. Others (Dargo) had so much stuff collected in the tranny's filter that the machine didn't operate correctly. I think he was a little under 50 hours.
I would recommend doing the 50 hour service.