5103 AND A 8' MOWER

[usmc5595]

will A 2007 (TURBO) 5103 RUN A 8' SHREDDER WITH THREE GEAR BOXES??

THE SHREDDER BROCHURE STAYS 50 HP MINIMUM. I AM HAVING TROUBLE FINDING OUT IF I HAVE A50 HP OR A 46. IF IT IS A46 WOULD THIS HURT THE TRACTOR TO HAVE A BIG MOWER ON IT???

IT THE 3008 SHREDDER Bush Hog&reg - Performance You Can Count On

I HAVE A 100 ACRES TO CUT AND THE SHREDDER IS ALREADY THERE ON THE PROPERTY.

 

[radman1]

I used a JD 5300 (50 pto hp) with an 8', rhino rotary cutter. The mower was HD and looked just like the one in the bushhog link. I think your tractor is a good match with an 8', dual, spindle mower-unless the mowing is extreme. IMHO, a bigger tractor is just more difficult to manage in tight situations. I think my rhino was rated up to 100 hp. My 5300 was MFWD and had a loader. You will need either a loader or front end weights to optimally handle the weight of the mower. 46hp vs 50hp is not a significant difference and not really noticeable.

The negative is, an 8' cutter is going to take an extremely long time to mow 100 acres. For that much land, a 15' batwing is better and you don't have the hp for a 15'.

 

[usmc5595]

I used a JD 5300 (50 pto hp) with an 8', rhino rotary cutter. The mower was HD and looked just like the one in the bushhog link. I think your tractor is a good match with an 8', dual, spindle mower-unless the mowing is extreme. IMHO, a bigger tractor is just more difficult to manage in tight situations. I think my rhino was rated up to 100 hp. My 5300 was MFWD and had a loader. You will need either a loader or front end weights to optimally handle the weight of the mower. 46hp vs 50hp is not a significant difference and not really noticeable.

The negative is, an 8' cutter is going to take an extremely long time to mow 100 acres. For that much land, a 15' batwing is better and you don't have the hp for a 15'.

the model in question has three gear boxes on it. a fellow tractor owner said that the 8' mower would/could tear up the pto on my tractor??????

 

[ctlguy]

will A 2007 (TURBO) 5103 RUN A 8' SHREDDER WITH THREE GEAR BOXES??

THE SHREDDER BROCHURE STAYS 50 HP MINIMUM. I AM HAVING TROUBLE FINDING OUT IF I HAVE A50 HP OR A 46. IF IT IS A46 WOULD THIS HURT THE TRACTOR TO HAVE A BIG MOWER ON IT???

I think you are looking at gross hp specs, 5103 in 2007 was only 38 at the pto, previous versions where 43hp at the pto. As far as damaging the pto on you tractor that is very unlikely. You will however probably be disapointed in the perfromance of the cutter esp in heavier material and the cutter slows down. then you sit in one spot to wait for it to get back up to speed. Since the cutter is already there, give it a try and see if it performs the way it should. If you would like to know the which hp your tractor is post or email me your s/n and I will tell you.

 

[radman1]

Didn't realize the 5103 only had 38 pto hp. That maybe a bit marginal. What kind of mowing will it be doing? The physical size of the 5103 should be ok to handle it with FEL or weights.

 

[deere5105]

Looks like tractordata.com lists it at 38 HP claimed and 46 HP tested. I would suspect if it is tall thick grass it is going to bog if going very fast.

 

[sunnyside360]

I have this exact 3008 Bush Hog rotary cutter with a Kubota M8200 tractor. That is a monster cutter - weighs almost a ton but it cuts. I believe the M8200 is 82 engine hp - not sure of the pto hp. I've never seen the tractor bog down because of high thick grass or from going too fast. Instead of bogging, it does a lousy job cutting when going too fast. Just have to slow down at times. You know the cutter is being worked too hard when the mid gear box gets so hot the oil boils out the top relief valve.

I think your 5103 tractor can handle the cutter as long as you are heavy enough on the tractor front (ballast). Also, make sure the pto clutch on the cutter is adjusted properly to minimize possibility of damage to your tractor.

 

[radman1]

I have this exact 3008 Bush Hog rotary cutter with a Kubota M8200 tractor. That is a monster cutter - weighs almost a ton but it cuts. I believe the M8200 is 82 engine hp - not sure of the pto hp. I've never seen the tractor bog down because of high thick grass or from going too fast. Instead of bogging, it does a lousy job cutting when going too fast. Just have to slow down at times. You know the cutter is being worked too hard when the mid gear box gets so hot the oil boils out the top relief valve.

I think your 5103 tractor can handle the cutter as long as you are heavy enough on the tractor front (ballast). Also, make sure the pto clutch on the cutter is adjusted properly to minimize possibility of damage to your tractor.

I agree with your statements. If the tractor actually tests at 48 pto hp, I think you will still be ok. Since the mower is already on the property, give it a try.

 

[usmc5595]

I agree with your statements. If the tractor actually tests at 48 pto hp, I think you will still be ok. Since the mower is already on the property, give it a try.

Thanks for the replies the mowing will be mostly through coastal hay about 2' high I am not sure how thick. I do have anew 6 footer if this does not pan out.

 

[AGGIE00]

Thanks for the replies the mowing will be mostly through coastal hay about 2' high I am not sure how thick. I do have anew 6 footer if this does not pan out.

2' coastal is going to be very tough to cut especially when you are low on hp. I pull a MX8 3pt with my 5083e and used to pull it with a 2640. The 2640 is 79 hp pto, but too light on the front without weight. The mx8 weighs around 1700 lbs.

 

[jenkinsph]

You should be able to handle this mower with ballast as mentioned above but I doubt it will actually cut better than using the smaller mower, I would think you will have slow forward movement in tall grass with this 8' mower. You may actually cover more ground with the smaller deck since it would have less driveline losses and surely would be easier to manuever.


AGGIE00, a 2640 is 70pto hp not 79 just to clarify for other readers and this would be a much better match than the 5103.

 

[sunnyside360]

You should be able to handle this mower with ballast as mentioned above but I doubt it will actually cut better than using the smaller mower, I would think you will have slow forward movement in tall grass with this 8' mower. You may actually cover more ground with the smaller deck since it would have less driveline losses and surely would be easier to manuever.

I agree and would add that sharpness of the blades is a huge factor on a rotary cutter. With sharp blades way less power is required, will cut faster, quality of cut is better, less fuel is needed and it's much easier on the tractor and mower. Rotary cutter blades are not usually very sharp but if cutting high grass then they should stay sharp a long time.

Should have mentioned the best and easiest way I have found to keep the blades sharp is with an angle grinder. Raise the deck as high as possible, block it up for safety, and go at it -- don't need to remove the blades.

 

[AGGIE00]

You should be able to handle this mower with ballast as mentioned above but I doubt it will actually cut better than using the smaller mower, I would think you will have slow forward movement in tall grass with this 8' mower. You may actually cover more ground with the smaller deck since it would have less driveline losses and surely would be easier to manuever.


AGGIE00, a 2640 is 70pto hp not 79 just to clarify for other readers and this would be a much better match than the 5103.

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