5300 Intermittantly Dies

[bucmeister]

Out of the blue my 5300 died recently, just as though I had turned the key off. Drained the filter, pumped up the primer, bled the injector pump and all it would do is start, hit 1300-1500 rpm then shut off again as before. It would do this every time. Finally bled the #1 injector and it ran rest of evening. Did it again a week ago though it took a lot more to get it going. Finally yesterday it started shutting down to almost dead then rev up to 1300-1500 then down again. Limped it about 100 yards to the shop moving with each surge. My unit has the Lucas pump with the externally accessible electric fuel shut off solenoid which I pulled, took the plunger out, put the solenoid back on and ran it for several hours all through the woods at my hunting camp. Just have to choke it down with the clutch when ready to shut down.

Got to get a new solenoid cause this one gets weak when it gets hot. In talking to the parts dept about this it seems there have been two updates to this part so there must have been a problem.

Has anyone else had this problem?

 

[joecdeere]

this is an old notice, but you may want to check the info against yours-

Solution Number: 8113

Solution Summary: PIP 96RW128 FUEL SHUT-OFF SOLENOID IMPROVEMENT / FIX-AS-FAIL

Publication Date: Aug 4 2003


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**Paper copies of solutions may not be the most current solutions**

This PIP has terminated, and PIP claims will no longer be accepted.


COMPLAINT:
* - Engine will die and not restart.
* - Engine may exhibit low power or run rough when hot.

PROBLEM:
All tractors have higher than expected fuel shut-off solenoid failure
due to manufacturing problems with plastic bobbin that the wires
connect around. Tractors within a known serial number range are
suspect.

PRODUCTS AFFECTED:
For reference, tractors in this program will be within the following
serial number range:

5200 (220563-420322), 5300 (230622-430831), 5400 (240597-460190)
6200 (109272-134969), 6300 (109272-134969), 6400 (109272-134969)
7200 (001002-003130), 7400 (001002-003326)

CORRECTION:
Install MPCD10021 Shut-off Solenoid Kit on 5000 and 6000 Series
tractors or RE54064 Shut-off Solenoid on 7200 and 7400 tractors.

SPECIAL TOOLS:
None needed.

KIT INFORMATION:
All kits/parts are to be ordered from PDC. They will not be
automatically ordered for since this is a Fix-as-Fail program.

LABOR:
Install shut-off solenoid kit/part: 0.5 hrs.

ACCOUNTING:
Please prepare DC-255 for each tractor repaired in this program.
Make sure that tractor model number, serial number, program number
and factory account code number (09-492) are on each claim completed.

EXPIRATION DATE:
01 April 1998

DISPOSITION OF PARTS:
Scrap all replaced parts using service administration guidelines.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
Another way to identify suspect solenoids is as follows;

Before installing new solenoid, check for 'Lucas/Cav' manufacturing
code rather than 'Roto-Diesel'

Solenoids can be identified by a four (4) digit code stamped on the
body. First two (2) digits indicate week number and last two (2) are
the year. For example; Code 1594 means week number 15 (11-16 April)
of 1994.

Do NOT use any solenoid with manufacturing codes from 1293
(22-27 MAR 93) up to 2694 (27 JUN - 02 JUL 94).

Any parts with single upright stud are probably 'Roto-Diesel' and
should not be used. Unpainted pieces will say 'Roto-Diesel' on top
cover near stud. 'Lucas/Cav' pieces have flat top with threaded
hole.

Solenoids in your inventory with codes between 1293 and 2694 or from
'Roto-Diesel' should be returned to your parts depot using regular
parts return procedure.

IMPORTANT:
Under normal operation, shut-off solenoid can be 'HOT' to the touch.

UPDATED: 09 JUN 95 / MJ
UPDATED: 29 JUL 96 / JC

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6400, 6300, 5400, 6200, 5400N, 7200, 7400, 5300, 5200


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